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<p>I can be argued out of my thinking on this, and I'm willing to set my concerns aside and work with my library to pull our weight within a consortium. I would prefer what you called a "lightweight feed" in a previous conversation, but in the right circumstances,
CPL could and would be willing to find a way to contribute to a shared network staffed collectively doing what seems to have evolved into more heavyweight work.
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<p>I work at a public library that hopes to avoid being banished to the a "Type C" category, but I still think trying to work with OCLC on a proof of concept/pilot OAI feed for DPLA might be productive (though I will concede that Taylor and OCLC have not
offered any concrete written responses to licensing and technology concerns). And, from my perspective as a library consumer, OCLC ,as much as I have concerns about their fees and costs and, er, other things (and I do), has managed to stay in business for
quite some time and has a business model that from my perspective (no matter how much I resent it sometimes) seems to be sustainable. RLG, the other public utility, failed for a variety of reasons having to do with addressing long-term sustainability, and
as of yet DPLA seems to be murky on issues having to do with sustainability beyond a three year trial.
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<p>Having stated that as a concern, I very much want to work with DPLA and share our data, but I also want to hedge my bets by multiplying the tools that enable presentation of my collection data and access to my libraries digital collections. As I see it,
OCLC's Digital Collection Manager presents numerous potential benefits regarding aggregation and points of access created through WorldCat. At least on the face of it, those benefits are very attractive. I want to have my data in both WorldCat and DPLA if
that is at all possible. </p>
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<p>Have we heard directly yet from OCLC and/or DPLA about how licensing and metadata might work with DPLA? Have we asked? Are there possible workarounds? And if we choose to work on parallel tracks, what happens to metadata that gets contributed to both Collection
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<p>Also, have we gotten any word from DPLA on whether there might be terms and specifications under which they'd accept a data feed from OCLC?</p>
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<p>At the risk of being accused of being a flak for OCLC (which I am not), we have a significant number of digital collections in Ohio that use ContentDM and have put in significant financial, staff development, workflow development, and content into that database,
and that seems to obligate us to push hard to investigate avenues of collaboration with OCLC to see how we might move that data and those resources easily into DPLA to share.
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri",sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Unless the licensing issue is corrected – no. And certainly not at first as it only provides a data dump, not an interactive stream that notes adds, deletes, etc. that
we’d expect and want from oai pmh. So, this would fall into functionality that we’ve classified in the type C groups (those that can’t implement oai pmh on their collections).</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-family: "Calibri",sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: "Calibri",sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> dplasteering-bounces@lists.oplin.org [mailto:dplasteering-bounces@lists.oplin.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 22, 2016 8:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> dplasteering@lists.oplin.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [DPLAsteering] Prototype budget and narrative</span></p>
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Isn't there a possibility that the OCLC Gateway could be just another path for getting data into the aggregator? So a ContentDM customer could streamline their workflow and prepare metadata for the local collection, WorldCat, and DPLA all in one step?</p>
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Reese, Terry P. <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:reese.2179@osu.edu" target="_blank">reese.2179@osu.edu</a>> wrote:</p>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I have no idea how it works here in Ohio but I’ve worked with a number of folks on the west coast that had strong reasons why they weren’t OCLC members. My guess is that this probably isn’t so much of a problem here in
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I didn’t mean to imply that anyone was anti-hub hosting – but as you’ve noted here – there has been a good deal of hesitancy to volunteer to pick this up because, even for a pilot, there will be a significant commitment
of resources not just for new staff, but for staff with a very specific set of skills. So while OCLC definitely has their own agendas, I wanted to make sure we’d fleshed out OCLC’s interest and talked about if this fits or not.
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<b>From:</b> Evans, Gwen <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Reese, Terry P. <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:reese.2179@osu.edu" target="_blank">reese.2179@osu.edu</a>>;
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Is this a serious deal-breaker for participants who have no reason to be an OCLC member (smaller museums and other cultural heritage institutions, for example?) If OCLC is serious about this, it seems to me that they need to get their head out of library-only
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I wouldn’t say that anyone (OhioLINK, in this case) is anti-hub hosting — we are willing to do it. However, we are not willing to do it without a robust sustainability and funding plan, and I would expect that to be true of any other organization in dplaOhio. I’ve
discussed this briefly with Missy and Beverly, and there are some possibilities for the three year pilot that don’t depend on OhioLINK funding; but funding 1.5 - 2 FTE on a permanent basis has to be planned in an equitable manner.</p>
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<b><span style="color: black;">From: </span></b><span style="color: black;"><<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:dplasteering-bounces@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">dplasteering-bounces@lists.oplin.org</a>> on behalf of "Reese,
Terry P." <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:reese.2179@osu.edu" target="_blank">reese.2179@osu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:mlodge@library.ohio.gov" target="_blank">mlodge@library.ohio.gov</a>" <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:mlodge@library.ohio.gov" target="_blank">mlodge@library.ohio.gov</a>>,
"<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:dplasteering@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">dplasteering@lists.oplin.org</a>" <<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="mailto:dplasteering@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">dplasteering@lists.oplin.org</a>><br>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I looked over Liz’s DPLA Prototype narrative and it’s probably close. What I would say about the Hydra solution, based on our own experiences, you’d likely need 1.5-2 fte. There is the system itself (which needs a good
deal of work if we were to move it forward to current Hydra/fedora), but Fedora is its own animal – then there is solr, etc. I think the first two years, you’ll need significant developer time to move the project forward (or partner closely with Penn. or
NY). After two years, I think the role will be reduced – but the technical person will still need a very specific set of skills. You will need a Programmer who is familiar with DevOps. A traditional technologist or admin won’t be sufficient. </span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Also, I followed up from our last conversation with Taylor at OCLC. They are keen to do a pilot, and talked about what they see as being able to offer. I’m still not completely sold – but they are interested in a pilot,
or at least having some further discussions. I did find it interesting that they are also having some conversations with DPLA, mostly to see what complications DPLA might see on their end.
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<span style="color: black;">Good Morning:</span></p>
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<span style="color: black;">Attached is the draft budget and narrative Liz prepared for the DPLA Prototype. It has been shared with the State Librarian and the Executive Team and is now ready to be shared with the full Steering Committee in preparation for
Friday’s call. Please let Tom, Liz or I if you have any questions or concerns. This will be an agenda item on Friday.</span></p>
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<span style="color: black;">Have a good week,</span></p>
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<span style="color: black;">Missy</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 98); font-family: "Century Gothic",sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Missy Lodge</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 98); font-family: "Century Gothic",sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Associate State Librarian for Library Development</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 98); font-family: "Century Gothic",sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">274 E. 1<sup>st</sup> Avenue</span></p>
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<a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="tel:614-644-6914" target="_blank">
614-644-6914</a></span></p>
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614-466-3584</a></span></p>
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<span style="color: black;"><a style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" href="http://library.ohio.gov/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: "Century Gothic",sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">library.ohio.gov</span></a></span></p>
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