[OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited

Tue Jul 14 16:38:22 EDT 2015

and now this:

http://ohionet.org/blog/2015/07/learningexpress-library-now-available-through-ohionet

not the same after all?

I am SOOOOOO confused.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Stephen Hedges <stephen at oplin.ohio.gov>
wrote:

> Ah, I seem to have created more confusion.
>
> LEL is OK with pointing people to OMJ, they're just picky about the
> wording we use. (And we're still working on that.)
>
> OMJ is happy to have us point people to their website.
>
> Stephen
> --
> Stephen Hedges, Director
> [Note new email: stephen at oplin.ohio.gov]
> Ohio Public Library Information Network
> 2323 W. Fifth Ave., Suite 130, Columbus 43204
> 614-728-5252
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Ann Riegle Crichton <ARiegle at daytonmetrolibrary.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:20 PM
> To: Joel Mantey; Stephen Hedges; oplinlist at lists.oplin.org
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
> Stephen, we're considering our options at Dayton Metro Library so we can
> continue offering this popular service to our patrons. If OMJ and LEL don't
> want us to point people to the OMJ website, what CAN we do to provide
> access? Is our only option to buy a subscription to LEL?  This may be an
> understatement, but I don't think our govt officials had any idea what a
> can of worms this cut/ change would open.
>
> Ann Riegle Crichton
> Business Specialist
> Dayton Metro Library
> 937.496.8631
> ariegle at daytonmetrolibrary.org
>
> ________________________________________
> From: oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org <oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org>
> on behalf of Joel Mantey <jmantey at FindlayLibrary.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 2:46:31 PM
> To: Stephen Hedges; oplinlist at lists.oplin.org
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
> Thanks for the heads up on that Stephen! Don't want to get into any hot
> water with that.
>
> Joel Mantey
> Adult Services Librarian
> Findlay-Hancock County Public Library
> 206 Broadway
> Findlay, OH 45840
> 419.422.1712 ext 267
> www.findlaylibrary.org
> jmantey at findlaylibrary.org
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hedges [mailto:stephen at oplin.ohio.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 2:44 PM
> To: Joel Mantey; oplinlist at lists.oplin.org
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
> Well, now that you've done all this work, Joel...
>
> Notice that "LearningExpress Library" is trademarked. Today,
> LearningExpress is pointing out that OMJ doesn't have the "LearningExpress
> Library" platform, they have a "custom content" deal through Monster.com.
> So they do not want us to tell people that "LearningExpress Library" is on
> OMJ. We're trying to figure out just what we ~can~ say.
>
> To be fair, if I owned the trademark on "LearningExpress Library," I'd be
> pretty protective, too.
>
> Stephen
>  --
> Stephen Hedges, Director
> Ohio Public Library Information Network
> 2323 W. Fifth Ave., Suite 130, Columbus 43204
> 614-728-5252
>
>
>
> From: oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org <oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org>
> on behalf of Joel Mantey <jmantey at FindlayLibrary.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 2:36 PM
> To: oplinlist at lists.oplin.org
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
>
> I've updated our library's bookmarks on accessing Learning Express
> Library. Since it is now through OMJ instead of our library's site it could
> be useful for everyone, at the  least it may give you a starting point for
> making your own. Hopefully it can be of use to guide patrons through the
> new access steps come August 9th.
>
>
>
> Joel Mantey
> Adult Services Librarian
> Findlay-Hancock County Public Library
> 206 Broadway
> Findlay, OH 45840
> 419.422.1712 ext 267
> www.findlaylibrary.org
> jmantey at findlaylibrary.org
>
>
>
>
>
> From: oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org [mailto:
> oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org] On Behalf Of Nick Tepe
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 5:43 PM
> To: oplinlist at lists.oplin.org
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
>
> Learning Express is, in fact, completely there and available in OMJ if you
> click on "Access Learning Express Anonymously" from the page Stephen
> linked. However  as was already observed, you do have to create an OMJ
> account to asave your progress. This isn't really any different than what
> we did before, it's just that now you need a complete OMJ account rather
> than just the Learning Express account. Once you are logged  in this is
> what you see :
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If you click "Visit My Assessments Page" under non-core tests you find the
> complete Learning Express product:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> That should look familiar to everyone. :-)
>
>
>
> On a broader note though, I think it would be a good idea if we all
> trusted that OPLIN did their homework and ensured that we weren't losing
> anything when they  decided to discontinue paying for Learning Express in
> OWL, especially since it meant that the State was paying for the same
> product twice. I like EBSCO, but as a taxpayer I don't think it's a good
> idea to pay them double what we have to.
>
>
>
> Addtionally, as much as we may not like the site as it stands, there is no
> question that OMJ is here to stay. It is the governor's  project, so it
> will always take priority. That being the case the best thing we can do as
> information professionals is to learn the site as well as possible so we
> can help our patrons, and contact OMJ with productive suggestions on how to
> make the site work  better. I've also reached out to OMJ for on-site
> training for my staff, and they have been very receptive to sending somone
> to work with my staff on how to use the site.
>
> This is what we do. Let's show them how it's done!
>
>
>
> Nick Tepe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Sue Provenzale [Sue.Provenzale at westlakelibrary.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:58 PM
> To: Eric Taggart; Stephen Hedges
> Cc: oplinlist at lists.oplin.org; Susan Pieper
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
> There is a lot banter comparing the resources found at Ohio Means Jobs to
> those available through Learning Express.
>
> There appears to be four practice assessments at Ohio Means Jobs plus many
> Veteran Resources geared for our veterans re-entering the workforce.
>
> Learning Express, on the other hand, has nine learning centers with four
> or more learning resources per learning center and even more tests and
> practices as you work through the layers.  The Learning Express resources
> address the needs of a much broader audience  with ACT and SAT prep,
> exploring careers, Elementary, Middle, and High School resources, resources
> our spanish speaking population, etc.
>
> It seems to me that the resources found at Ohio Means Jobs are a fraction
> of what can be found at Learning Express and thus can not possibly fill the
> void.
>
> Is it possible that I am missing a link on Ohio Means Jobs that leads to
> more of the traditional Learning Express resources or is "what you see is
> what you get"?  If not, I don't see how "our patrons will still have access
> to this resource, even if the means  to getting it will change"
> Sue Provenzale
> Business Specialist
> Westlake Porter Public Library
> 27333 Center Ridge Rd.
> Westlake, Ohio 44145
> 440-250-5460
> Sue.Provenzale at westlakelibrary.org
>
> "If past history was all there was to the game, the richest people would
> be librarians." Warren Buffett
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Eric Taggart" <etaggart at coshoctonlibrary.org>
> Sent: 7/8/2015 2:59:37 PM
> To: "Stephen Hedges" <stephen at oplin.ohio.gov>
> Cc: oplinlist at lists.oplin.org, "Susan Pieper" <susanhillpieper at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited Thanks for the
> clarification, Stephen- glad our patrons will still have access to this
> resource, even if the means to getting it will change.
>
> On Jul 8, 2015 2:49 PM, "Stephen Hedges" <stephen at oplin.ohio.gov> wrote:
>  Wow, it sounds like no one will ever see LearningExpress again!
>
> Remember, it's here, and will stay here:
> https://jobseeker.ohiomeansjobs.monster.com/Assessments/Home.aspx
>
> What goes away after August 9 is this:
> http://ohioweblibrary.org/db/lel
> ...and similar access points currently available through OhioLINK (which
> includes the State Library) and INFOhio.
>
> Stephen
>  --
>  Stephen Hedges, Director
>  [Note new email: stephen at oplin.ohio.gov]
>
> Ohio Public Library Information Network
> 2323 W. Fifth Ave., Suite 130, Columbus 43204
> 614-728-5252
>
>
>
> From: oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org <oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org>
> on behalf of Susan Pieper <susanhillpieper at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:38 PM
> To: oplinlist at lists.oplin.org
> Subject: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
>
> Stephen Hedges has confirmed what I had feared, that we will lose the
> Assessment and Training component of Learning Express Hub as it appears on
> the Workforce Skills for the 21st Century and via The State Library of Ohio.
>
>
> In a time when the governor and legislature is pushing retraining and
> improving job skills, it just does not make sense to drop this database.
> Our rural community depends on access to these training tools to hone
> skills in everything from computer use  to studying  for college prep tests
> to training for certification in a number of fields.
>
>
> When we provide computer training, we highlight these resources and folks
> are thrilled to learn about them. We will be hard-pressed to find resources
> as organized and as easily navigable as these are.
>
>
> If anyone has any insights to another resource (besides YouTube and
> googling for training materials), please let me know. I am very
> disappointed at the loss of this database.
> Susan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *******************************************************************
>
> Susan Hill Pieper, M.S.L.S.
> Director/Librarian
> Paulding County Carnegie Library
> 205 South Main Street
> Paulding, Ohio 45879
> (419) 399-2032 - Voice    (419) 399-2114 - Fax
> www.pauldingcountylibrary.com
> https://www.facebook.com/PauldingCountyLibrary
> Follow us on Twitter!
> *******************************************************************
> _______________________________________________
> OPLINLIST mailing list --  OPLINLIST at lists.oplin.org
> http://lists.oplin.org/mailman/listinfo/oplinlist
>
> http://aboutbooks.info -- Search for author, title, subject... anything
> about books.
>
>
>
>
>   Confidentiality Notice: E-mail sent is generally subject to Ohio Public
> Records Law except as otherwise provided by Ohio law or under a legal
> privilege. If the  reader of this message is not the intended recipient,
> please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it
> from your computer. Thank you.
>
> _______________________________________________
> OPLINLIST mailing list -- OPLINLIST at lists.oplin.org
> http://lists.oplin.org/mailman/listinfo/oplinlist
>
> http://aboutbooks.info -- Search for author, title, subject... anything
> about books.
> _______________________________________________
> OPLINLIST mailing list -- OPLINLIST at lists.oplin.org
> http://lists.oplin.org/mailman/listinfo/oplinlist
>
> http://aboutbooks.info -- Search for author, title, subject... anything
> about books.
>

-- 
Gerry Vogel, MLIS
Assistant Director, Avon Lake Public Library
32649 Electric Blvd. Avon Lake OH 44012 www.alpl.org
general phone: 440-933-8128 (x239) direct line: 440-933-7238
cell (and text): 440-714-7581 fax: 440-933-6406

*any opinions expressed are my own and not (necessarily, or yet) those of
ALPL*
We check out wifi hotspots and Rokus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP8m7dm0xjU
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.oplin.org/pipermail/oplinlist/attachments/20150714/3fe9a77a/attachment.html>