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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear List,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> I would like it known that though I have concerns, I did not advocate any actions. I even thought it would be interesting to see how this played out (as voiced in my 1<sup>st</sup> post). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Let me give a little background. I’m 52, while that is not old (at least I don’t feel old), I have seen a fair amount of history. >From library cards and card catalogs to computers and <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OPACs. I have also seen people burnt by technology not thought out. How many people fall prey to identity theft every year? How many companies have had their databases <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>broken into? How many banks have lost usernames & passwords? While a lot people do not seem to worry about their own anonymity (not implying anything just stating a fact),<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I still worry about mine and our patrons. Our patrons have the right to expect us to be responsible with their personal data. That being said, I believe that this will become <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>common place but, it still must be thought out. Thought out as to how our library’s rule can or will be adapted, as to how we will budget for this technology (I am sure <b>our</b> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>scanners would not be able to read these smartphones, so that would require new scanners), etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> We have allowed for file downloads, burning cds & dvds, scanning of photos & documents, the use of usb drives, and just about anything else our patrons wanted (with-in<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>reason). We were first adopters of both Vista & Windows 7. I have had Ubuntu boxes on the floor for our patrons. We have run Office 2010 & Windows 7 from the day they <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>became available for download from software assurance. We are not afraid of new technology. It <b>does </b>deserve to be thought out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>The statements made are of my own opinion and not those of the Meigs County District Public Library or the Meigs Co. Board.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>Dan Will</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>Technology Supervisor</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>Meigs County District Public Library </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:willda@oplin.org"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>willda@oplin.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>740.992.5813</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>740.992.6140 (fax)</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>“When you are growing up there are two institutional places that affect you most powerfully: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>the church that belongs to God and the public library that belongs to you. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The public library is the great equalizer.” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Keith Richards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oplinlist-bounces@lists.oplin.org [mailto:oplinlist-bounces@lists.oplin.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric Taggart<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 22, 2011 12:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Oplin<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OPLINLIST] Smart phone Library Card application<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Even though I understand what some of you skeptics are saying about this, I think it is a very paranoid view- most people (and I mean, like 98% of people) would not do what Dan and Avery are suggesting. It may be a very, very occasional problem, but it isn't going to become a "huge" problem, in my opinion (and you are certainly free to disagree with me). <br><br>If you are going to ask for photo ID with the barcode, you might as well just tell people they can't use their smart phones to check out. I think if you are going to require photo ID with the smart phone, you are creating a policy for an incredibly small fraction of the population; meanwhile, you are punishing everyone else. Also, the two percent (that may actually be a high estimate) that you are creating the policy for? They will just find another way to burn you, because you can't out-policy them. I also think that if we don't accept these types of applications on smart phones, it just gives more ammunition to those who believe public libraries are outdated.<br><br>Who knows, maybe I'll feel differently if and when this really catches on...but I doubt it because I think it is more about one's public library philosophy than it is about smart phones and new technology. <br><br>Eric<br><br><br>-- <br>Eric D. Taggart, Director<br>Coshocton Public Library<br>655 Main Street<br>Coshocton, Ohio 43812<br>Phone: 740.622.0956<br>Fax: 740.622.4331<br><a href="http://coshoctonlibrary.org">coshoctonlibrary.org</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Avery Shifflett <<a href="mailto:shifflav@oplin.org">shifflav@oplin.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>I'd actually like to see some more discussion on the security aspect of using barcode apps on smart phones. I think Dan Will brought up an excellent point about patrons being able to enter any number they like. I can see this becoming a huge problem. Anyone tech savvy enough to use such an app will figure out that they can enter any number they like. As long as the barcode meets the check digit, they can literally use anyone's account.<br><br>Personally, I'm thinking that if we accept it, we need a photo ID as well (as the original poster asked).<br><br>One person said: "there isn’t a way to verify that the person holding the card is the person you issued the card to, so why would the device be any different?", but I see it as being very different. A physical card would have to be lost for someone else to use it, and the patron can report it lost/missing. With a barcode app, anybody can use my account even though my physical card is safely tucked away.<br><br><br>Thoughts anyone?<br><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Avery Shifflett<br>Carroll County District Library<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>========================================================================================<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>Bruce,<br><br> I have not seen this and since I don’t have a “smartphone” I won’t be using it but, my opinion is that the library card was given to the patron as their method of identification. They knew that when they got the card. They cannot (reasonably) expect you to accept something else. What prevents the user from putting just any number in the app and have it create a barcode that might actually be someone else’s number? I can see where this might be something to work towards for our patrons but, I think we need a way to control the id creation (unless there is security controls that I am unaware of).<br><br>Be interesting to see how this plays out.<br><br><br>Dan Will<br>Technology Supervisor<br>Meigs County District Public Library<br><a href="mailto:willda@oplin.org">willda@oplin.org</a><br><a href="tel:740.992.5813">740.992.5813</a><br><a href="tel:740.992.6140">740.992.6140</a> (fax)<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>OPLINLIST mailing list -- <a href="mailto:OPLINLIST@lists.oplin.org">OPLINLIST@lists.oplin.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.oplin.org/mailman/listinfo/oplinlist" target="_blank">http://lists.oplin.org/mailman/listinfo/oplinlist</a><br><br><a href="http://aboutbooks.info" target="_blank">http://aboutbooks.info</a> -- Search for author, title, subject... anything about books.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>