Yeah, they know that people are not going to give those things up easily so why squeak a few dollars while we make the transition.<br><br><br clear="all">Eric Maynard<br>Head of Information Technology,<br>Holmes County District Public Library<br>
Millersburg, OH 44654<br><br>Email [<a href="mailto:emaynard@holmeslib.org">emaynard@holmeslib.org</a>]<br>Phone [330.674.5972 x.224]<br>Fax [330.674.1938] <br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Mann, James H. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:JMann@gcpl.lib.oh.us">JMann@gcpl.lib.oh.us</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I love it….</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">And I’m still paying an extra $20 to get floppy drives pre-installed.</span></p><div class="im">
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jim Mann</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Technology Coordinator</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Greene County Public Library</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">76 E. Market St.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Xenia Ohio 45385</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">(</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: red;">937)352-4000 x1210</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">mailto: <a href="mailto:jmann@gcpl.lib.oh.us" target="_blank">jmann@gcpl.lib.oh.us</a></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">"If everything seems under control, you're just not going
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@oplin.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@oplin.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>JKENZIG<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eric Maynard; <a href="mailto:oplintech@oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech@oplin.org</a><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OPLINTECH] Public Access Computer purchases</div></div></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Wait a few
months maybe, and Windows 7 will be out and it runs on quite a bit more types
of hardware than Vista can. We are going to have to give up XP sooner or
later. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 14pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Most
manufacturers are starting to offer the option of SSD’s in there PC’s also and
by years end I expect they all will. I think it was Seagate that
last years CES announced a 2 TERAbyte SSD will be out this year, other
drive manufactures have followed suit with announcements. 16 gb ssds are
generally well available. </span></p>
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<p style=""><b><span style="font-size: 16pt; font-family: "Freestyle Script"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jim Kenzig</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br>
</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Network Manager</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br>
</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Cuyahoga County Public Library</span></p>
<p style=""><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">Administrative Offices</span></i></p>
<p style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">2111 Snow Road / Parma, OH
44134-2728</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: blue;"><a href="http://www.cuyahogalibrary.org" target="_blank">www.cuyahogalibrary.org</a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@oplin.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@oplin.org</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Eric Maynard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:oplintech@oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech@oplin.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OPLINTECH] Public Access Computer purchases</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Jim,<br>
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Good point on the SSDs, but is there anything out there that runs XP besides
netbooks? Also, I'd be curious if anything like that had built in optical
drive options.<br>
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I'm sure you could custom build something like this as Chad was suggesting, but
I'm not sure that is the route we want to take in terms of long term support.<br>
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Decisions... decisions.....<br>
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Eric Maynard<br>
Head of Information Technology,<br>
Holmes County District Public Library<br>
Millersburg, OH 44654<br>
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Email [<a href="mailto:emaynard@holmeslib.org" target="_blank">emaynard@holmeslib.org</a>]<br>
Phone [330.674.5972 x.224]<br>
Fax [330.674.1938] <br>
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<p>On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:43 AM, JKENZIG <<a href="mailto:JKENZIG@cuyahogalibrary.org" target="_blank">JKENZIG@cuyahogalibrary.org</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p>Remember that Solid State drives(SSD) are also starting to
become the norm and they consume way less power.<br>
Also if you can try and get the VPro chipset. It has enhanced
functionality for remote wakeup and control.</p>
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Jim Kenzig<br>
Network Manager<br>
Cuyahoga County Public Library</p>
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<p>Administrative Offices<br>
2111 Snow Road / Parma, OH 44134-2728<br>
<a href="http://www.cuyahogalibrary.org" target="_blank">www.cuyahogalibrary.org</a></p>
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From: <a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@oplin.org</a>
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On Behalf Of Chad Neeper<br>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:46 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:oplintech@oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech@oplin.org</a></p>
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<p>Subject: Re: [OPLINTECH] Public Access Computer purchases<br>
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I don't think that's going to be so true in the very near future. A week or so
ago I was looking into the Mini-ITX form factor (6.7 x 6.7 inch) motherboards
from Intel for a client that wanted to buy some new computers. Intel has a few
Mini-ITX boards that supports standard desktop processors. One I'm glancing at
now supports the Core2 Quad.<br>
While I'd like to start using the smaller form factor, I didn't end up
suggesting it yet because the selection of Mini-ITX boards available from my
distributors are still primarily using underpowered processors...just like you
said. I only found one mini-itx board SKU supporting standard desktop
processors at one of my secondary distributors. I haven't looked for release
dates from Intel, but I think they're probably right around the corner since
they're already being shown on Intel's website in full detail and my
distributors already have at least one SKU.<br>
<br>
The mini-itx case I was looking at had a 120W power supply. If the processor
alone takes up to 65W, that leaves 55W for the motherboard, 2.5" or
3.5" hard drive, and 5.25" or slimline CD/DVD-ROM drive. That should
be just enough power. Heat could definitely be an issue, as you said, but if
the case is designed well, it could be managed well enough.<br>
The only thing really proprietary is the motherboard itself, with built-in
video, USB, network interface, etc. But that's really no different than full
ATX or mATX style motherboards.<br>
<br>
This is all from a white-box perspective, though. There probably IS more
proprietary components in a Dell, Acer, or whatever other big names are left
out there in this economy! But then, with those you also get things like being
able to hang the computer on the back of the monitor. I haven't looked, but I
think I'd probably be hard pressed to find something like that in a whitebox
config.<br>
<br>
Just my 2 (more) cents.<br>
<br>
Chad<br>
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Chad Neeper<br>
Senior Systems Engineer<br>
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Level 9 Networks<br>
740-548-8070 (voice)<br>
866-214-6607 (fax)<br>
<br>
-- Full LAN/WAN consulting services --<br>
-- Specialized in libraries and schools --<br>
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<br>
<br>
Industry Standard Computers wrote:<br>
> The problem with ALL micro computers except laptops are the power<br>
> supplies are too underrated. The computers run hotter.<br>
><br>
> Seldom do micros have the newest or faster processors as buy options.<br>
><br>
> Next the micro computers are generally 95% proprietary parts inside<br>
> even the hard drives sometimes are proprietary designs or interfaces.<br>
><br>
> People who are rich can afford to replace computers every 3 years or<br>
> whenever the warranty runs out, most others can not.<br>
><br>
> Butch<br>
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