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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi there Chad, here is a thought you could try.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>You can disable any hotkeys by using an AutoHotkey remapping script. Instead of assigning a command to an AutoHotkey hotkey, you just tell it to do nothing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>For example You could paste the following script into notepad and save it with a .ahk extension. If you install AutoHotkey on 1 machine, you can compile the script into an .exe file so you won’t need AutoHotkey installed on the server.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>; If you don't want the kids to know there is a script running, enter this command at the top of the script.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>#NoTrayIcon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>; If you only want to disable hotkeys in Internet Explorer, you need to enter this command at the top. If you do not enter it, it will block all hotkeys in any program.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>#ifwinactive ahk_class IEFrame<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>; Enter every hotkey that you want disabled in AutoHotkey Syntax<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>; http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/Hotkeys.htm<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>; Run this script at startup<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>^a:: ; this stands for Control-a<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>F9:: ; this stands for F9 (caret browsing)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>F10:: ; this stands for F10 (alternative to alt)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>LControl:: ; this should disable all hotkeys with the left control key <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>RControl:: ; this should disable all hotkeys with the right control key<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>LAlt:: ; Same for Alt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>RAlt:: ; Same for Alt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>LWin:: ; Same for Winkey<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>RWin::<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Lshift:: ; you get the picture<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Rshift::<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>WheelUp::<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>WheelDown:: ; This stands for the Scroll Wheel down command<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>This script will only disable the Hotkeys for Internet Explorer. It will not disable hotkeys for other windows programs. You can hide the AHK tray Icon if you want in script and prevent users from using Task Manager to close it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>You can find more here<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a href="http://superuser.com/questions/352758/how-do-you-disable-hotkeys-in-internet-explorer-9">http://superuser.com/questions/352758/how-do-you-disable-hotkeys-in-internet-explorer-9</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>This may be an easy solution to implement. Hope you get a solution figured out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Sincerely<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ron Woods<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Computer Services Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>St. Clairsville Public Library<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>740-695-2062<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>http://www.stclibrary.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>woodsro@oplin.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org [mailto:oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chad Neeper<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OPLINTECH] Internet Explorer kiosk mode stumper<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks, Kevin. Good to know PWB can ignore the CTRL- keys. ...another piece to the puzzle falls into place.<br><br>I'm still trying to hold out hope, though. Thanks to everyone I have a few more ideas to try. There has GOT to be a way!!! LOL!<br><br>Chad<br><br>-- <br>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Senior Systems Engineer</span><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>740-548-8070 (voice)<br>866-214-6607 (fax)</span><br><br><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Full LAN/WAN consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Kevin Puffer <<a href="mailto:kpuffer@wcdpl.org" target="_blank">kpuffer@wcdpl.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Chad<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I sent this to you earlier, but didn't notice that my "reply only went to Nathan. (trying to do too many things at the same time).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>KP<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Kevin Puffer</b> <<a href="mailto:kpuffer@wcdpl.org" target="_blank">kpuffer@wcdpl.org</a>><br>Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:00 PM<br>Subject: Re: [OPLINTECH] Internet Explorer kiosk mode stumper<br>To: Nathan Rice <<a href="mailto:nrice@findlaylibrary.org" target="_blank">nrice@findlaylibrary.org</a>><br><br><br>I feel your pain. Your quest is exactly what led me to use Public Web Browser for my kiosk stations (also thin clients). [<a href="http://www.teamsoftwaresolutions.com/" target="_blank">http://www.teamsoftwaresolutions.com/</a> ]<br>A simple ap, It's basically a shell for IE but it allows pretty granular control over the user interface and disables these sort of keyboard shortcuts. I just tried <ctl>J on one of my stations and it does nothing. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I know you said no third party stuff, but at some point we all crumble. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sorry.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>KP<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Nathan Rice <<a href="mailto:nrice@findlaylibrary.org" target="_blank">nrice@findlaylibrary.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chad, I have a very similar configuration as you. I’m running a GPO with a custom user interface launching IE in kiosk mode, I am having the same issues trying to disable the crtl+h and ctrl+j. I’m still running standard desktop PCs for my catalog systems and my next move was to install KeyTweak to disable the Ctrl key and maybe have the custom user interface launch a script that opens KeyTweak then IE in kiosk mode. I also thought about writing something in autohotkey but I’m not sure how much time I really want to invest into this. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Unfortunately it seems that there’s no easy registry or GPO setting for this one and since you’re running terminal services I’m sure this could be a little more tricky when 3<sup>rd</sup> party software gets involved… </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Nathan Rice<br>Manager of Information Technology<br>Findlay-Hancock County Public Library<br>206 Broadway<br>Findlay, OH 45840<br><a href="tel:419-422-1712" target="_blank">419-422-1712</a> (Library)<br><a href="tel:419-424-7051%20ext.%20264" target="_blank">419-424-7051 ext. 264</a> (Direct Line)<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:nrice@findlaylibrary.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>nrice@findlaylibrary.org</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Confidentiality Notice:<br>e-mail sent is generally subject to Ohio Public Records Law except as otherwise provided by Ohio law or under a legal privilege. 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Thank you. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chad Neeper<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:49 AM<br><b>To:</b> OPLINTECH<br><b>Subject:</b> [OPLINTECH] Internet Explorer kiosk mode stumper</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Ok, folks. I've got a stumper I can't seem to solve. I spent half of yesterday getting to this point and am hoping someone here can get me moving again. I'm trying to make an Internet Explorer kiosk which only accesses the library's web-based catalog and nothing else. I'm using a thin client to access a Windows 2008R2 server, so Deep Freeze isn't an option and all of the lock-down mechanisms must be in the user profile only so as to not affect other users. After the better part of the day, using nothing but the tools available in Windows, I've worked around all of the failings of doing this and have a nearly bullet proof browser locked to the catalog, incapable of accessing any other site and which affects only the user profile:<br><br>I'm using Group Policies to enforce the following setup for the user:<br>- Locked the browser to one website only by setting the proxy server in Internet Options to <a href="http://127.0.0.0:91" target="_blank">127.0.0.0:91</a> (just a loopback address with an unused port...an invalid proxy server) with an exception to bypass the proxy for the catalog server. (This affects only the user, not the whole system.)<br>- Replaced the Explorer shell with Internet Explorer running in kiosk mode (iexplore.exe -K)<br>- Group Policies again to prevent everything but Logout when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.<br>- IE as a shell in Kiosk mode works great until it is escaped by clicking a link that opens a new window...which opens in regular old non-kiosk mode. Fixed that by majorly austere group policies and some specific registry changes via group policy preferences...effectively re-creating kiosk mode the hard way, complete with no URL bar, pull-down menus, etc.<br><br>The only thing left that I can't seem to disable via GP or registry tweak is that CTRL-H and CTRL-J are still enabled. CTRL-H brings up the history/favorites window. It's pretty much benign, since I'm removing history and favorites, but it's a potential escape point. More devastating, however, is CTRL-J. This brings up the View Downloads window...which leads to Download Options...Which leads to a "Browse" button...Which SAYS that the operation is cancelled due to restrictions, but actually brings up a file system browse window complete with enumeration of the server's file system and network...which leads to anything I feel like doing, including easily launching a full Explorer desktop.<br><br>Complete and total failure to lock down IE using available group policies and GPPs, even with kiosk mode enabled. On the surface it SEEMS secure, but as soon as some kid mashes the keyboard, the breach will be exposed.<br><br>I was able to slightly limit some of the browse window by using some of the Explorer Group Policies, but since Internet Explorer is the shell...ot Explorer...the policies don't seem to affect it the same way.<br><br>So what I'd like to be able to do is disable at least CTRL-J...the View Downloads window, which will lock out the breach. I can supposedly remap the CTRL-J and CTRL-H scan codes to NUL but that's a computer-level change affecting all users. I want to keep this at the user level.<br><br>Yes, I know: Linux, or another browser with a better kiosk mode/plug-in. But I'm trying to use available software and tools, which means Windows OS, IE, and the standard tools that come with them. No third party apps. I'm 99.9% of the way there and it would really stink if that last .1% turns out to be this glaring breach that Microsoft overlooked in their infinite wisdom of security-as-an-afterthought.<br><br>Thoughts anyone? I'm stuck.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Chad<br><br>-- <br>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Senior Systems Engineer</span><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'><a href="tel:740-548-8070" target="_blank">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br><a href="tel:866-214-6607" target="_blank">866-214-6607</a> (fax)</span><br><br><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Full LAN/WAN consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>OPLINTECH mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.oplin.org/mailman/listinfo/oplintech" target="_blank">http://lists.oplin.org/mailman/listinfo/oplintech</a><br>Search: <a href="http://oplin.org/techsearch" target="_blank">http://oplin.org/techsearch</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><br><br clear=all><span class=hoenzb><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#888888'>-- </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:#888888'> <b>Kevin Puffer</b><br><b>Systems Administrator</b><br></span><span style='color:#888888'><img border=0 width=96 height=50 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD86CB.3A7854A0" alt="Description: http://wcdpl.org/sites/default/files/foliage_logo.jpg"></span><span style='color:#888888'><br><b>Wood County District Public Library</b><br><b>251 N. 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Main St. Bowling Green, OH 43402</b><br><b>(419) 352-5104 - <a href="mailto:kpuffer@wcdpl.org" target="_blank">kpuffer@wcdpl.org</a></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Senior Systems Engineer</span><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>740-548-8070 (voice)<br>866-214-6607 (fax)</span><br><br><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Full LAN/WAN consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>