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<DIV>Hello colleagues,</DIV>
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<DIV>Does anyone currently get reports for Ubiquiti / Unifi wireless? I just
downloaded the manual but would appreciate speaking / emailing directly with
someone who’s already familiar with it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Lynne</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Lynne Welch
- Herrick Memorial Library<BR>101 Willard Mem. Sq. - Wellington, Ohio 44090
USA<BR>tel 440-647-2120 email welchly@oplin.org</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=hedgesst@oplin.org
href="mailto:hedgesst@oplin.org">Stephen Hedges</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:30 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org
href="mailto:OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org">OPLINTECH</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OPLINTECH] New WiFi connection stats reporting /
captured portals</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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making Wi-Fi stats mandatory?<BR><BR>Nah, this is part of the stats the State
Library collects every year. Although I'll admit, that will be an extremely
useful stat to have.<BR><BR>As I understand it, this stat will be a federal
requirement next year (most of the stats the State Library collects fulfill
federal requirements), and SLO is asking for the stat this year to work out some
kinks before the federal requirement kicks in. If that's correct, it sounds like
a wise plan to me.<BR><BR>Stephen<BR>--<BR>Stephen Hedges, Director<BR>Ohio
Public Library Information Network (OPLIN)<BR>2323 W. Fifth Ave., Suite 130,
Columbus, OH 43204<BR>614-728-5250 ::
hedgesst@oplin.org<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Ruchie
Rice" <rrice@fcdlibrary.org><BR>> To: "OPLINTECH"
<OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org><BR>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015
9:15:17 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [OPLINTECH] New WiFi connection stats reporting
/ captured portals<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I hadn’t heard of OPLIN
making wi-fi stats mandatory. We used to use<BR>> Bluesocket which used to
give us stats but we did away with it a couple of<BR>> years ago because the
splash page was not working well with some devices.<BR>> We’d like to keep it
that way. Also, we have nine wireless APs among 5<BR>> locations and would
hate to have to spend money to get stats. If we could<BR>> use a DHCP
solution that would work better for us.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Also,
since it is library using resources I agree that human and non-human<BR>>
connections should count.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ruchie<BR>>
<BR>> Information Technology Coordinator<BR>> <BR>> Fairfield County
District Library<BR>> <BR>> 219 N. Broad St.<BR>> <BR>> Lancaster,
OH 43130<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
https://helpdesk.clcohio.org/<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> “Coming
together is a beginning; keeping together is progress; working<BR>> together
is success” – Henry Ford<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From:
oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org<BR>>
[mailto:oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org] On Behalf Of Chad Neeper<BR>>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 3:52 PM<BR>> To: OPLINTECH<BR>> Subject:
[OPLINTECH] New WiFi connection stats reporting / captured portals<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hello, OPLINTECH:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I've been hearing from some of my libraries that
they're now going to be<BR>> required to annually report WiFi connection
statistics starting with 2015.<BR>> Presently, other than one rogue, none of
my libraries collect those stats.<BR>> Being small libraries with only one or
two very simple access points, I'm<BR>> pretty sure that most of the devices
they're using simply don't provide<BR>> stats on the number of individual
network connections. One way to provide<BR>> the statistic would be to
implement captive portals and require a human to<BR>> click "I accept" to an
Acceptable Use Policy on a splash page whenever they<BR>> try to initiate a
browsing session. The captive portal would likely provide<BR>> the required
statistics. But it introduced some other questions:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> 1) The state wants the number of WiFi
connections....Are those supposed to be<BR>> Human-initiated connections?
When I walk into a library, my phone<BR>> automatically establishes a
connection and refreshes itself with various<BR>> content, downloading my
latest podcasts, synching my e-mail, etc. That's the<BR>> behavior I want my
phone to do, but I often don't want to open a browser<BR>> session and
actually browse to a website on my phone. Sometimes I do, but<BR>> more
often, I don't. So should those automatic connections count in the<BR>>
stats? If so, then every single patron with a smart phone will likely
get<BR>> counted, even if they're just driving by the library and come into
range for<BR>> a few seconds.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> 2) If the state is only interested in the Human initiated connections,
then<BR>> that would pretty much mandate a captured portal and require the
click on "I<BR>> accept" before a session is permitted. Personally, I hate
WiFi hotspots like<BR>> that because it interferes with the normal operation
of my wireless device.<BR>> I also hate being forced to remember to open a
browser and perform an action<BR>> after I've tried to figure out for a few
moments why my device isn't<BR>> connected properly. In the past, I've even
run into locations that for<BR>> whatever reason the captive portal doesn't
play nicely with my wireless<BR>> device and I'm just SoL.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> 3) If I need to set up captive portals at
each of my small libraries to<BR>> report this stat, should I bill the state
directly? My libraries are already<BR>> pretty strapped. ;-)<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> 4) Does anyone collect this stat using
software that isn't built into their<BR>> wireless access points and isn't a
full "I accept" human-interaction<BR>> required captive portal?<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ideally,
I'd have something that's:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> - 3rd party software only
solution independent of any particular vendor's<BR>> access points<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> - Open source<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> - Simple/turn-key
(translates to cheap to implement for my small libraries)<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> - Doesn't prevent the normal background function of wifi devices when a
human<BR>> doesn't specifically want to use their browser<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> - Collects the number of wifi connections that's either human-initiated
or<BR>> automatic, depending on which stat the state actually wants to
know<BR>> (assuming the state even knows the difference)<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I know people
will probably reply with the names of their own captive portals<BR>> or
access point manufacturers/models that provide the stats. What are
others<BR>> planning to do now that this particular stat appears to be more
required and<BR>> what type of stats you're providing or plan to provide (all
connections,<BR>> human-only, whatever)? As much as that, I'm just kind of
curious where/if<BR>> this conversation thread goes.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Any comments or thoughts on this?<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thanks,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
Chad<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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