<div dir="ltr">It seems like lotsa folks have already set up gmail accounts, contacted their domain host about email, etc., etc. So to avoid confusion, IF we get a temporary, simple mail server set up, we'd probably ask folks to contact us and request a temporary account.<div><br></div><div>---</div><div>Stephen</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Chad Neeper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com" target="_blank">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Didn't think of that. Some accounts may have been hidden, though. I often will mark my list membership as unpublished, so my own e-mail wouldn't necessarily show up. You'd also have to weed out the <a href="http://non-oplin.org" target="_blank">non-oplin.org</a> addresses, but that could be done.<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><font size="1">Senior Systems Engineer</font><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><font size="1"><a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070" target="_blank">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br><a href="tel:866-214-6607" value="+18662146607" target="_blank">866-214-6607</a> (fax)</font><br><br><font size="1"><i>Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</i></font><br></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Bob Neeper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neeperro@gmail.com" target="_blank">neeperro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Glad I'm 'retired'.<br>
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Chad's too kind. My suggestion.<br>
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You can get 500 + accounts quickly from the list servers when you
log in .<br>
Probably most active people watch some of the lists.<br>
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Volunteering at:
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<div dir="ltr">Yeah we thought of that to. Figured you won't know
the accounts. The only thing I could come up with was to post a
message on the website asking for the directors to get a list of
their currently active accounts and forward it to you. The 2600
might whittle down a little in the process. Not ideal, but
something.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Karl
Jendretzky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com" target="_blank">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yeah I'm
with you on all those points, and haven't ruled out the idea<br>
of a failover mail server. Tricky part is that I know which
domains we<br>
need from the Barracuda but I don't know the 2600 user
accounts.<br>
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It's not ruled out.<br>
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IT Manager - Ohio Public Library Information Network<br>
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728-1515</a><br>
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On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Chad Neeper <<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com" target="_blank">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Whaaaat? You mean you can't turn water into wine?
You don't have unlimited<br>
> resources? You can't turn base metals into gold? My
world has just been<br>
> shattered.<br>
><br>
> I think probably we all totally understand where
you're coming from.<br>
> Personally, I greatly appreciate all of the hard
work you AND the rest of<br>
> the team have done over the years. You all deserve
an extra vacation and pay<br>
> raise. Or at least a nap.<br>
><br>
> From a library point of view, I'm hoping that you
set up another mail<br>
> server. Big picture, I'd strongly suspect the
amount of time and money saved<br>
> is worth it vs. each individual library having to
deal with it. It stinks<br>
> for OPLIN Support, but it's hugely useful,
especially for smaller libraries.<br>
><br>
> You'll hate this idea too (don't shoot the
messenger), but someone suggested<br>
> to me just now that perhaps you could set up
another mail server in the<br>
> short term and re-create the accounts with the
understanding that all mail<br>
> is gone and this may only be a temporary interim
solution. It would be a<br>
> huge pia for Support to recreate accounts, but it
would go a long way<br>
> towards keeping business running at individual
libraries. You could still<br>
> decide not to continue the service going forward,
but it would help reduce<br>
> the emergency thrust upon the libraries and allow
them to more gracefully<br>
> switch to another system.<br>
><br>
> Chad<br>
> ______________________________<br>
> Chad Neeper<br>
> Senior Systems Engineer<br>
><br>
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> <a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070" target="_blank">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br>
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in libraries and schools<br>
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> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Karl Jendretzky
<<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com" target="_blank">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Well, frankly trying to host mail with limited
staff is what got us in<br>
>> this spot in the first place. OPLIN is 5
people, and I'm the only<br>
>> sysadmin we have. I've been mostly awake since
2:45am on Friday, and<br>
>> though I may be overruled at some point I hope
that we don't offer<br>
>> mail any more. Even when working properly it
strains the staff an<br>
>> unnecessary amount.<br>
>><br>
>> Currently I'm in talks with the mail group with
the State of Ohio.<br>
>> They work with Microsoft to provide email to
state agencies. I'd like<br>
>> to have a info sheet we can give to libraries
outlining how they can<br>
>> move onto the state's mail system, but initial
response from the state<br>
>> indicates their team might not be able to
handle the load. I've got a<br>
>> conference call tomorrow morning with the state
mail team, and should<br>
>> know more after.<br>
>><br>
>> -Karl<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Chad Neeper
<<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com" target="_blank">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > Ouch. Thanks for the info.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > That's a sinking feeling when you're in
the middle of it and watching<br>
>> > the<br>
>> > server not do what it's supposed to. I
don't wish that feeling on<br>
>> > anyone!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This is probably early and you may not be
ready to announce, but any<br>
>> > thoughts to set up another mail server and
web front-end available to<br>
>> > all<br>
>> > libraries, or are you getting out of that
game entirely? Knowing that<br>
>> > will<br>
>> > help to decide what to do.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks,<br>
>> > Chad<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ______________________________<br>
>> > Chad Neeper<br>
>> > Senior Systems Engineer<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Level 9 Networks<br>
>> > <a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070" target="_blank">740-548-8070</a>
(voice)<br>
>> > <a href="tel:866-214-6607" value="+18662146607" target="_blank">866-214-6607</a>
(fax)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Full IT/Computer consulting services --
Specialized in libraries and<br>
>> > schools<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Karl
Jendretzky<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com" target="_blank">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Everything besides the Zimbra server
is running properly.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The Zimbra server was running Ubuntu
10, which is reaching end of life<br>
>> >> and<br>
>> >> needed updated. The server was pushed
to Ubuntu 14, and a patch was run<br>
>> >> on<br>
>> >> Zimbra to bring it up to date, but
after the patching finished the 80GB<br>
>> >> LDAP<br>
>> >> database was corrupted. Attempts to
fix the corrupted database failed.<br>
>> >> Backups were restored, and a small
patch was attempted to bring it up<br>
>> >> to<br>
>> >> U14, but once again there were LDAP
issues. A new Ubuntu 10 mail server<br>
>> >> was<br>
>> >> built, and the exact version of Zimbra
for the backups was installed,<br>
>> >> and<br>
>> >> the backup data was put in place, but
failed. Each step was slightly<br>
>> >> different errors.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> My thought is that the Zimbra server
went through many updates through<br>
>> >> it's life, and at some point some of
the data went out of spec just<br>
>> >> enough<br>
>> >> that it could only ever run on the
exact U10 environment that it had.<br>
>> >> That<br>
>> >> U10 environment no longer exists.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Zimbra is a nasty beast. It uses many
packages, but none are the<br>
>> >> repository default packages. All are
bundled with Zimbra, and all work<br>
>> >> just<br>
>> >> the way Zimbra wants them to, meaning
that support resources are<br>
>> >> sparse.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The only thing that the Zimbra server
was doing was personal email<br>
>> >> accounts.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> -Karl Jendretzky<br>
>> >><br>
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