<div dir="ltr">Thanks, that should help. Do you want the libraries to send the list to you or is there a generic account you'd prefer?<div><br></div><div>...What's special about Saturday April 4?</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><font size="1">Senior Systems Engineer</font><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><font size="1">740-548-8070 (voice)<br>866-214-6607 (fax)</font><br><br><font size="1"><i>Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</i></font><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Karl Jendretzky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com" target="_blank">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Here's a bit of a help.<br>
<br>
I've built a forwarder server that handles all the domains that was on<br>
the zimbra server. If a library supplies us with a text file of old<br>
address and new addresses, we'll forward the mail through. So at the<br>
very least libraries can do what we're doing and forward to things<br>
like personal GMail accounts.<br>
<br>
So as an example the current file reads..<br>
<br>
<a href="mailto:jendreka@oplin.org">jendreka@oplin.org</a> <a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:karl@oplin.org">karl@oplin.org</a> <a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:director@oplin.org">director@oplin.org</a> <a href="mailto:st.hedges@gmail.com">st.hedges@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:hedgesst@oplin.org">hedgesst@oplin.org</a> <a href="mailto:st.hedges@gmail.com">st.hedges@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:editor@oplin.org">editor@oplin.org</a> <a href="mailto:oplinsupport@gmail.com">oplinsupport@gmail.com</a><br>
<br>
This is a server we plan on running until Friday April 3rd to give<br>
libraries time to notify vendors of the change of address.<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
Karl Jendretzky<br>
IT Manager - Ohio Public Library Information Network<br>
<a href="tel:%28614%29%20728-1515" value="+16147281515">(614) 728-1515</a><br>
<a href="mailto:karl@oplin.org">karl@oplin.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Chad Neeper <<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Thanks! That's actually some of the information I've been looking for. It<br>
> answers the question of whether or not OPLIN will be providing a mail server<br>
> for libraries going forward. It's been very convenient having OPLIN Support<br>
> handling e-mail, but if that was going away eventually anyway, then you're<br>
> right: we can start looking to alternatives, using a meaningful domain<br>
> name.<br>
><br>
> Some libraries are setting up a few gmail accounts, but the accounts are<br>
> often tied to individuals, sometimes incorporating the individual's name and<br>
> the library's initials or whatever. That's all well and good for now, but it<br>
> could cause a problem down the road if one of those individuals gets sacked<br>
> and decides to use the account for malicious intent. The organization has no<br>
> ability to terminate or lock the account! I'm sure they're not thinking<br>
> along those lines right now, though.<br>
><br>
> I'm still hoping you'll set up a temp server in the short term just to<br>
> receive the mail that they'll otherwise miss. That would go a ways towards<br>
> giving them more time to plan and ease their transition. But this gives us<br>
> some guidance.<br>
><br>
> I try not to stress too much about problems. Go ahead and go home. Relax.<br>
> Get some shut-eye.<br>
> The problems will still be there tomorrow. ;-)<br>
><br>
> Chad<br>
><br>
> ______________________________<br>
> Chad Neeper<br>
> Senior Systems Engineer<br>
><br>
> Level 9 Networks<br>
> <a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br>
> <a href="tel:866-214-6607" value="+18662146607">866-214-6607</a> (fax)<br>
><br>
> Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Stephen Hedges <<a href="mailto:st.hedges@gmail.com">st.hedges@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Well, there's no doubt that any simple mail server would be temporary.<br>
>> We're in the process of moving OPLIN office accounts to the State of Ohio's<br>
>> email service and will eventually need the "<a href="http://oplin.org" target="_blank">oplin.org</a>" name.<br>
>><br>
>> This actually might be a good time for libraries to think about grabbing a<br>
>> domain name that means a little more to their patrons, rather than "oplin."<br>
>> (Sorry, just trying to find ~some~ kinda silver lining today.)<br>
>><br>
>> ---<br>
>> Stephen<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Chad Neeper <<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> A lot of my own small libraries seem to already have a generic<br>
>>> <a href="http://non-oplin.org" target="_blank">non-oplin.org</a> account that they've been using in the meantime. I've just<br>
>>> been suggesting they continue to do that for now, but not necessarily start<br>
>>> going around to the myriad of organizations they do business with and start<br>
>>> en masse switching the e-mail accounts yet until we get some official<br>
>>> guidance from OPLIN on what you folks plan to do going forward. If you do<br>
>>> decide to set up another mail server, even temporarily, that might impact<br>
>>> their knee-jerk responses.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Chad<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ______________________________<br>
>>> Chad Neeper<br>
>>> Senior Systems Engineer<br>
>>><br>
>>> Level 9 Networks<br>
>>> <a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br>
>>> <a href="tel:866-214-6607" value="+18662146607">866-214-6607</a> (fax)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and<br>
>>> schools<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Hedges <<a href="mailto:st.hedges@gmail.com">st.hedges@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> It seems like lotsa folks have already set up gmail accounts, contacted<br>
>>>> their domain host about email, etc., etc. So to avoid confusion, IF we get a<br>
>>>> temporary, simple mail server set up, we'd probably ask folks to contact us<br>
>>>> and request a temporary account.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ---<br>
>>>> Stephen<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Chad Neeper<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Didn't think of that. Some accounts may have been hidden, though. I<br>
>>>>> often will mark my list membership as unpublished, so my own e-mail wouldn't<br>
>>>>> necessarily show up. You'd also have to weed out the <a href="http://non-oplin.org" target="_blank">non-oplin.org</a><br>
>>>>> addresses, but that could be done.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ______________________________<br>
>>>>> Chad Neeper<br>
>>>>> Senior Systems Engineer<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Level 9 Networks<br>
>>>>> <a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br>
>>>>> <a href="tel:866-214-6607" value="+18662146607">866-214-6607</a> (fax)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and<br>
>>>>> schools<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Bob Neeper <<a href="mailto:neeperro@gmail.com">neeperro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Glad I'm 'retired'.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Chad's too kind. My suggestion.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> You can get 500 + accounts quickly from the list servers when you log<br>
>>>>>> in .<br>
>>>>>> Probably most active people watch some of the lists.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> R. W. (Bob) Neeper<br>
>>>>>> (Retired Toledo Scale Engineer & Computer Guy)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Volunteering at:<br>
>>>>>> Community Library<br>
>>>>>> 44 Burrer Dr.<br>
>>>>>> Sunbury, Oh 43074<br>
>>>>>> Tel: <a href="tel:%28740%29-965-3901" value="+17409653901">(740)-965-3901</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On 3/9/2015 11:46 AM, Chad Neeper wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Yeah we thought of that to. Figured you won't know the accounts. The<br>
>>>>>> only thing I could come up with was to post a message on the website asking<br>
>>>>>> for the directors to get a list of their currently active accounts and<br>
>>>>>> forward it to you. The 2600 might whittle down a little in the process. Not<br>
>>>>>> ideal, but something.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> ______________________________<br>
>>>>>> Chad Neeper<br>
>>>>>> Senior Systems Engineer<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Level 9 Networks<br>
>>>>>> <a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br>
>>>>>> <a href="tel:866-214-6607" value="+18662146607">866-214-6607</a> (fax)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and<br>
>>>>>> schools<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Karl Jendretzky<br>
>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Yeah I'm with you on all those points, and haven't ruled out the idea<br>
>>>>>>> of a failover mail server. Tricky part is that I know which domains<br>
>>>>>>> we<br>
>>>>>>> need from the Barracuda but I don't know the 2600 user accounts.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> It's not ruled out.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Karl Jendretzky<br>
>>>>>>> IT Manager - Ohio Public Library Information Network<br>
>>>>>>> <a href="tel:%28614%29%20728-1515" value="+16147281515">(614) 728-1515</a><br>
>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:karl@oplin.org">karl@oplin.org</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Chad Neeper<br>
>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> > Whaaaat? You mean you can't turn water into wine? You don't have<br>
>>>>>>> > unlimited<br>
>>>>>>> > resources? You can't turn base metals into gold? My world has just<br>
>>>>>>> > been<br>
>>>>>>> > shattered.<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> > I think probably we all totally understand where you're coming<br>
>>>>>>> > from.<br>
>>>>>>> > Personally, I greatly appreciate all of the hard work you AND the<br>
>>>>>>> > rest of<br>
>>>>>>> > the team have done over the years. You all deserve an extra<br>
>>>>>>> > vacation and pay<br>
>>>>>>> > raise. Or at least a nap.<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> > From a library point of view, I'm hoping that you set up another<br>
>>>>>>> > mail<br>
>>>>>>> > server. Big picture, I'd strongly suspect the amount of time and<br>
>>>>>>> > money saved<br>
>>>>>>> > is worth it vs. each individual library having to deal with it. It<br>
>>>>>>> > stinks<br>
>>>>>>> > for OPLIN Support, but it's hugely useful, especially for smaller<br>
>>>>>>> > libraries.<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> > You'll hate this idea too (don't shoot the messenger), but someone<br>
>>>>>>> > suggested<br>
>>>>>>> > to me just now that perhaps you could set up another mail server in<br>
>>>>>>> > the<br>
>>>>>>> > short term and re-create the accounts with the understanding that<br>
>>>>>>> > all mail<br>
>>>>>>> > is gone and this may only be a temporary interim solution. It would<br>
>>>>>>> > be a<br>
>>>>>>> > huge pia for Support to recreate accounts, but it would go a long<br>
>>>>>>> > way<br>
>>>>>>> > towards keeping business running at individual libraries. You could<br>
>>>>>>> > still<br>
>>>>>>> > decide not to continue the service going forward, but it would help<br>
>>>>>>> > reduce<br>
>>>>>>> > the emergency thrust upon the libraries and allow them to more<br>
>>>>>>> > gracefully<br>
>>>>>>> > switch to another system.<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> > Chad<br>
>>>>>>> > ______________________________<br>
>>>>>>> > Chad Neeper<br>
>>>>>>> > Senior Systems Engineer<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> > Level 9 Networks<br>
>>>>>>> > <a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br>
>>>>>>> > 866-214-6607 (fax)<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> > Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries<br>
>>>>>>> > and schools<br>
>>>>>>> ><br>
>>>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Karl Jendretzky<br>
>>>>>>> > <<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> > wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> Well, frankly trying to host mail with limited staff is what got<br>
>>>>>>> >> us in<br>
>>>>>>> >> this spot in the first place. OPLIN is 5 people, and I'm the only<br>
>>>>>>> >> sysadmin we have. I've been mostly awake since 2:45am on Friday,<br>
>>>>>>> >> and<br>
>>>>>>> >> though I may be overruled at some point I hope that we don't offer<br>
>>>>>>> >> mail any more. Even when working properly it strains the staff an<br>
>>>>>>> >> unnecessary amount.<br>
>>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> Currently I'm in talks with the mail group with the State of Ohio.<br>
>>>>>>> >> They work with Microsoft to provide email to state agencies. I'd<br>
>>>>>>> >> like<br>
>>>>>>> >> to have a info sheet we can give to libraries outlining how they<br>
>>>>>>> >> can<br>
>>>>>>> >> move onto the state's mail system, but initial response from the<br>
>>>>>>> >> state<br>
>>>>>>> >> indicates their team might not be able to handle the load. I've<br>
>>>>>>> >> got a<br>
>>>>>>> >> conference call tomorrow morning with the state mail team, and<br>
>>>>>>> >> should<br>
>>>>>>> >> know more after.<br>
>>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> -Karl<br>
>>>>>>> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Chad Neeper<br>
>>>>>>> >> <<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> >> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> >> > Ouch. Thanks for the info.<br>
>>>>>>> >> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> > That's a sinking feeling when you're in the middle of it and<br>
>>>>>>> >> > watching<br>
>>>>>>> >> > the<br>
>>>>>>> >> > server not do what it's supposed to. I don't wish that feeling<br>
>>>>>>> >> > on<br>
>>>>>>> >> > anyone!<br>
>>>>>>> >> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> > This is probably early and you may not be ready to announce, but<br>
>>>>>>> >> > any<br>
>>>>>>> >> > thoughts to set up another mail server and web front-end<br>
>>>>>>> >> > available to<br>
>>>>>>> >> > all<br>
>>>>>>> >> > libraries, or are you getting out of that game entirely? Knowing<br>
>>>>>>> >> > that<br>
>>>>>>> >> > will<br>
>>>>>>> >> > help to decide what to do.<br>
>>>>>>> >> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> > Thanks,<br>
>>>>>>> >> > Chad<br>
>>>>>>> >> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> > ______________________________<br>
>>>>>>> >> > Chad Neeper<br>
>>>>>>> >> > Senior Systems Engineer<br>
>>>>>>> >> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> > Level 9 Networks<br>
>>>>>>> >> > 740-548-8070 (voice)<br>
>>>>>>> >> > 866-214-6607 (fax)<br>
>>>>>>> >> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> > Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries<br>
>>>>>>> >> > and<br>
>>>>>>> >> > schools<br>
>>>>>>> >> ><br>
>>>>>>> >> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Karl Jendretzky<br>
>>>>>>> >> > <<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> >> > wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> >> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> >> Everything besides the Zimbra server is running properly.<br>
>>>>>>> >> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> >> The Zimbra server was running Ubuntu 10, which is reaching end<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> of life<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> and<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> needed updated. The server was pushed to Ubuntu 14, and a patch<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> was run<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> on<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> Zimbra to bring it up to date, but after the patching finished<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> the 80GB<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> LDAP<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> database was corrupted. Attempts to fix the corrupted database<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> failed.<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> Backups were restored, and a small patch was attempted to bring<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> it up<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> to<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> U14, but once again there were LDAP issues. A new Ubuntu 10<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> mail server<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> was<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> built, and the exact version of Zimbra for the backups was<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> installed,<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> and<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> the backup data was put in place, but failed. Each step was<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> slightly<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> different errors.<br>
>>>>>>> >> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> >> My thought is that the Zimbra server went through many updates<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> through<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> it's life, and at some point some of the data went out of spec<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> just<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> enough<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> that it could only ever run on the exact U10 environment that<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> it had.<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> That<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> U10 environment no longer exists.<br>
>>>>>>> >> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> >> Zimbra is a nasty beast. It uses many packages, but none are<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> the<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> repository default packages. All are bundled with Zimbra, and<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> all work<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> just<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> the way Zimbra wants them to, meaning that support resources<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> are<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> sparse.<br>
>>>>>>> >> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> >> The only thing that the Zimbra server was doing was personal<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> email<br>
>>>>>>> >> >> accounts.<br>
>>>>>>> >> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> >> -Karl Jendretzky<br>
>>>>>>> >> >><br>
>>>>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>
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>>>>>>> >> --<br>
>>>>>>> >> -Karl<br>
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