<div dir="ltr">Whaaaat? You mean you <u>can't</u> turn water into wine? You <u>don't</u> have unlimited resources? You <u>can't</u> turn base metals into gold? My world has just been shattered.<div><br></div><div>I think probably we all totally understand where you're coming from. Personally, I greatly appreciate all of the hard work you AND the rest of the team have done over the years. You all deserve an extra vacation and pay raise. Or at least a nap.</div><div><br></div><div>From a library point of view, I'm hoping that you set up another mail server. Big picture, I'd strongly suspect the amount of time and money saved is worth it vs. each individual library having to deal with it. It stinks for OPLIN Support, but it's hugely useful, especially for smaller libraries.</div><div><br></div><div>You'll hate this idea too (don't shoot the messenger), but someone suggested to me just now that perhaps you could set up another mail server in the short term and re-create the accounts with the understanding that all mail is gone and this may only be a temporary interim solution. It would be a huge pia for Support to recreate accounts, but it would go a long way towards keeping business running at individual libraries. You could still decide not to continue the service going forward, but it would help reduce the emergency thrust upon the libraries and allow them to more gracefully switch to another system.</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Chad<br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><font size="1">Senior Systems Engineer</font><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><font size="1"><a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070" target="_blank">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br><a href="tel:866-214-6607" value="+18662146607" target="_blank">866-214-6607</a> (fax)</font><br><br><font size="1"><i>Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</i></font><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Karl Jendretzky <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com" target="_blank">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, frankly trying to host mail with limited staff is what got us in<br>
this spot in the first place. OPLIN is 5 people, and I'm the only<br>
sysadmin we have. I've been mostly awake since 2:45am on Friday, and<br>
though I may be overruled at some point I hope that we don't offer<br>
mail any more. Even when working properly it strains the staff an<br>
unnecessary amount.<br>
<br>
Currently I'm in talks with the mail group with the State of Ohio.<br>
They work with Microsoft to provide email to state agencies. I'd like<br>
to have a info sheet we can give to libraries outlining how they can<br>
move onto the state's mail system, but initial response from the state<br>
indicates their team might not be able to handle the load. I've got a<br>
conference call tomorrow morning with the state mail team, and should<br>
know more after.<br>
<br>
-Karl<br>
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On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Chad Neeper <<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com" target="_blank">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Ouch. Thanks for the info.<br>
><br>
> That's a sinking feeling when you're in the middle of it and watching the<br>
> server not do what it's supposed to. I don't wish that feeling on anyone!<br>
><br>
> This is probably early and you may not be ready to announce, but any<br>
> thoughts to set up another mail server and web front-end available to all<br>
> libraries, or are you getting out of that game entirely? Knowing that will<br>
> help to decide what to do.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Chad<br>
><br>
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> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Karl Jendretzky <<a href="mailto:karljendretzky@gmail.com" target="_blank">karljendretzky@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Everything besides the Zimbra server is running properly.<br>
>><br>
>> The Zimbra server was running Ubuntu 10, which is reaching end of life and<br>
>> needed updated. The server was pushed to Ubuntu 14, and a patch was run on<br>
>> Zimbra to bring it up to date, but after the patching finished the 80GB LDAP<br>
>> database was corrupted. Attempts to fix the corrupted database failed.<br>
>> Backups were restored, and a small patch was attempted to bring it up to<br>
>> U14, but once again there were LDAP issues. A new Ubuntu 10 mail server was<br>
>> built, and the exact version of Zimbra for the backups was installed, and<br>
>> the backup data was put in place, but failed. Each step was slightly<br>
>> different errors.<br>
>><br>
>> My thought is that the Zimbra server went through many updates through<br>
>> it's life, and at some point some of the data went out of spec just enough<br>
>> that it could only ever run on the exact U10 environment that it had. That<br>
>> U10 environment no longer exists.<br>
>><br>
>> Zimbra is a nasty beast. It uses many packages, but none are the<br>
>> repository default packages. All are bundled with Zimbra, and all work just<br>
>> the way Zimbra wants them to, meaning that support resources are sparse.<br>
>><br>
>> The only thing that the Zimbra server was doing was personal email<br>
>> accounts.<br>
>><br>
>> -Karl Jendretzky<br>
>><br>
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