<div dir="ltr">All library management and patron devices are laptops here. For the management, we went with Lenovo ThinkPads E40 or E41 with i7 processors. Our new patron laptops are HP. I won't go back to Dell. After seeing the toll daily use takes on the entertainment laptops from Dell, we chose to go with laptops that could take the daily punishment. We get our computers through CDWG.<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Thanks,</div><div dir="ltr">Chris Krumnow<div>IT Specialist</div><div>Defiance Public Library System</div><div>Work:<a href="tel:419-782-1456" value="+14197821456" target="_blank">419-782-1456</a></div><div>Cell: <a href="tel:419-956-2767" value="+14199562767" target="_blank">419-956-2767</a></div><div><a href="http://defiancelibrary.org" target="_blank">defiancelibrary.org</a></div><div><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B0FBLSJNTfwucS1PeXNvYmlqREU&revid=0B0FBLSJNTfwucCtWZnNVODNwWXorRVVKTGtLdEFMRDJwZGlVPQ" width="96" height="61"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Chad Neeper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cneeper@level9networks.com" target="_blank">cneeper@level9networks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sad, but probably true. Different margins for different customers has always been around, I'm sure. It's just a lot easier to discriminate with technology.<div><br></div><div>I even see it as a re-seller. I buy most of my stuff directly from national distributors. The distributors get it directly from the manufacturers. I work most with two big distributors. For several years I purchased mostly through one and used the other as a back-up if the first didn't have what I needed in stock. Pricing was usually better at my primary distributor also.</div><div><br></div><div>Eventually, my "dedicated sales rep" from my secondary distributor started calling, asking about my business, etc...(I'm sure trying to increase my business to them.) I just simply mentioned how I do my purchases, told him who my primary was and that he was my secondary/backup.</div><div><br></div><div>Wasn't too long after that I started noticing that my pricing was very notably lower on just about every item. It still is, several years later. Hmmm....</div><div><br></div><div>(Yeah, of course I switched them around! LOL!)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><font size="1">Senior Systems Engineer</font><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><font size="1"><a href="tel:740-548-8070" value="+17405488070" target="_blank">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br><a href="tel:866-214-6607" value="+18662146607" target="_blank">866-214-6607</a> (fax)</font><br><br><font size="1"><i>Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</i></font><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Rachelle Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rmiller@tmcpl.org" target="_blank">rmiller@tmcpl.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In case you didn’t know this….<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just beware of price discrimination—identical or like goods are given different prices based on markets or territories. You will get different prices based on your IP address, your business etc. It even helps to clear your cache so you are potentially seen as a “new” customer and given a lower price. The commercial and consumer models may actually be the same thing. Here are a few articles about it.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">From <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/24/ramasastry.website.prices/" target="_blank">CNN</a>:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">“Another report indicated that Dell Computer has offered the same model laptop at different prices to different customers: small businesses, health care companies, and state and local businesses were offered different deals.”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.mcafee.cc/Papers/PDF/ABAPriceDiscrimination.pdf" target="_blank">Price Discrimination</a> (from 2008)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The Web site of computer manufacturer Dell asks prospective buyers to declare whether they are a home user, small business, large business or government entity. Two years ago, the price of a 512 MB memory module, part number A0193405, depended on which business segment one declared. At that time, Dell quoted $289.99 for a large business, $266.21 for a government agency, $275.49 for a home, and $246.49 for a<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">small business.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Rachelle Miller, Director<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Troy-Miami County Public Library<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">419 W. Main St.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Troy, OH 45373<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:937%20339-0502%20x%20116" value="+19373390502" target="_blank">937 339-0502 x 116</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:rmiller@tmcpl.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:black;text-decoration:none">rmiller@tmcpl.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> | <a href="http://troypubliclibrary.org" target="_blank">troypubliclibrary.org</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Troy-Miami County Public Library seeks to maintain and improve the quality of life for all residents by providing resources that enhance and contribute to individual knowledge and enjoyment. The library provides access to information and collections that reflect all points of view.<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Burns<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:oplintech@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech@lists.oplin.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [OPLINTECH] laptops<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Charter-Roman","serif";color:#7b219f">We're getting ready to order some admin staff laptops and was wondering everyone's opinion on comsumer vs. commercial grade laptops. </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Charter-Roman","serif";color:#7b219f">…<snip>...</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Charter-Roman","serif";color:#7b219f">Is the business commercial grade laptops worth the extra money to get them for a small library system? Comments and thoughts much appreciated.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#7b219f">Fred Miller Jr</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">——<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Anymore I try to determine what users are doing. When it made sense to provide my kids laptops for school (somewhere during early HS years) I bought them (on eBay) Apple MacBooks. The software/hardware integration with project-oriented learning made this an easy choice. No real concern about “gaming” or sharing software— these were meant to be tools. The MacBooks would not die, and lasted 6-8 years through HS and college. Unfortunately for them, now they are old enough and resourceful enough to replace the machines on their own dime. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">That being said, I don’t know that I would do this the same way today. Given that they were locked in to technology that was eventually 10+ years old, and still working flawlessly, they miss out on whatever developments occur. Instead of say, $600 spent once, I might consider <$200 outlay for a Chromebook … which I consider disposable, and plan to replace it every 2.5-3 years. The ChromeOS is reasonable mature, the experience is meant to be cloud-based, and it integrates with other technology well. (ie. Android Phone). <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">It looks like tech companies (Google, MS, Apple) are trading software for data now, so the cost of software upgrades has gone away… well, I suppose that’s true if your data is worthless :) So as long as your hardware will support it— you can have the latest greatest for a while.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#4f8f00">——</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#4f8f00">Tim Burns</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#4f8f00">, Technologist</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#4f8f00">Bi</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#4f8f00">rchard Public Library of Sandusky County Ohio</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Charter","serif";color:#4f8f00"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:white">Department of Nuts and Bots</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Charter","serif";color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#942193"><a href="mailto:tim.burns@birchard.lib.oh.us" target="_blank">tim.burns@birchard.lib.oh.us</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#942193">telephone:<span> </span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#942193"><a href="tel:%28419%29%20334-7101" value="+14193347101" target="_blank">(419) 334-7101</a></span><span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#942193"> </span></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Athelas","serif";color:#942193">extension: 239</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>NOTICE: This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressees and may contain legally privileged, protected or confidential information. 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