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Good points Joe,<br>
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We use 3 USB devices and rotate weekly.<br>
The current one goes out of service and home on Friday.<br>
At the same time one in a fire poof cabinet goes in service.<br>
Monday a 2 week old one comes in to the library and placed in the
cabinet.<br>
<br>
That way the most recent backup is always off site.<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="80">R. W. (Bob) Neeper
(Retired Toledo Scale Engineer & Library Computer Guy)
Volunteering at:
Community Library
44 Burrer Dr.
Sunbury, Oh 43074
Tel: (740)-965-3901</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/28/2015 2:02 PM, Joe Knueven
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
it were me, one of the things I would think about is how
much of this would you need to re-configure anyway if you
had a catastrophic loss, and use that in sway my decision
some. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For
instance, are the terminals and their server new enough that
if the system were a total loss that you would replace them
with exactly the same makes/models/etc, such that you would
want the complete system so that you can load your backups
and get it up and running quickly.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
you suffered that manner of loss, would you be trying to
rebuild the system just with the people you have currently,
or would you be filing an insurance claim and would include
in that claim the cost for outside help to rebuild the
system? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Another
question, how much custom configuration is there in your
system? Is it basically a stock thin client installation,
or is there many tech hours that went into getting all of
the configurations setup so that the patron and staff
computers are exactly how you want them..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">On
the question of off-site backups, how much data are we
talking? Could you contemplate doing something less
expensive off-line, where say all of the relevant data is
backed up to portable hard drives or USB drives, if it’s a
small enough data set, and stored off-site in bank deposit
boxes, the Director and Fiscal Officer’s residences, or some
other reasonably available off-site location. That way you
have your off-site backups for the most likely catastrophic
events (a fire or direct tornado hit), but you’re not paying
a large monthly fee to have it backed up far far away..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">After
all, the kind of loss where the library and these other
locations would be totally destroyed is such an improbable
and massive event such that these files would probably be
the least of your worries… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Actually,
getting creative about the question of off-site backups, you
could make an arrangement with another library that is some
distance from your locations where you each keep a small
fire safe for the other and place your backup media in the
fire safe at their library and they do the same at yours,
and switch those out quarterly or semi-annually..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Basically,
I think something offline makes more sense for a small
library than paying a hefty monthly fee for an online
service..
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best
of luck and have a good day.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Joe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Joseph
Knueven<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Director<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Germantown
Public Library<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">51
N. Plum St.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Germantown,
OH 45327<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">937-855-4001<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:joe@gtownlibrary.net">joe@gtownlibrary.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tara Sidwell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oplintech@lists.oplin.org">oplintech@lists.oplin.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OPLINTECH] Computer Back Up Options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Good Morning,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>I am looking into what options we have to back up our virtual
computer system. We use WYSE terminals and have looked at
options where the complete system would be backed up including
servers, domain controllers, and files. This option is very
costly in terms of monthly fees for offsite backup and
technical support. I would like to hear any opinions anyone
might have or any experiences backing up information in a
small library. Do we need this much backup capacity? We are
a small library system with one branch. We are maintaining 50
machines counting patron and staff devices. We are a member
of SEO, so all library automation is backed up with them. I
appreciate any thoughts you could share.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Thank you in advance,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Tara Sidwell<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Director, Kate Love Simpson Morgan County Library System<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>McConnelsville and Chesterhill Ohio<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>740-962-2533<o:p></o:p></p>
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