<div dir="ltr">On the creeping slow booting Win10 computers, have you disabled Fast Startup? That could be related to the creep.<div><br></div><div>On a domain joined Win10 computer with SSD, I disable hibernation which subsequently deletes the huge hiberfil.sys and also disables Fast Startup, which interferes with Wake On LAN features in Win10. If memory serves, Fast Startup interferes with installing Windows Updates at Shutdown and may conceivably be related to a boot time creep.</div><div><br></div><div>And yeah. Five minutes is really long. Definitely no more than a minute, especially on newish computers.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><font size="1">Senior Systems Engineer</font><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><font size="1">740-548-8070 (voice)<br>866-214-6607 (fax)</font><br><br><font size="1"><i>Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</i></font><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Jordan Cooper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jcooper@myacpl.org" target="_blank">jcooper@myacpl.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">A little late to the party, but I want to further reiterate that you definitely, definitely need to uninstall DeepFreeze before upgrading (twice: once from ignorance and the other because a patron somehow found a way to upgrade one).<div><br></div><div>RE: Boot times: That's the one issue that's been plaguing the patron Win10/DeepFreeze machines. I've yet to find a way to deal with it because it doesn't seem to follow any rhyme or reason that I can discern. On some models (Asus Pro desktops I bought last February), it takes an exorbitantly long time to boot and the bulk of the wait is when it first gets to the desktop. The taskbar program icons and desktop shortcuts are missing and it just sticks there for a minute or two before loading it. I intend to keep troubleshooting and playing with them, but have yet to find a solution. Conversely, on some of the older (1-2-year-old) computers, it seems to work just fine. <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Thanks,<div><br></div><div><b>Jordan Cooper</b><br><i>Technology Associate</i><br>Athens County Public Libraries<br><a href="mailto:jcooper@myacpl.org" target="_blank">jcooper@myacpl.org</a></div><div><a href="tel:%28740%29%20590-1643" value="+17405901643" target="_blank">(740) 590-1643</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Chris Krumnow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ckrumnow@defiancelibrary.org" target="_blank">ckrumnow@defiancelibrary.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Bob,</div><div><br></div>What are the specs of this magic machine?<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Thanks,</div><div dir="ltr">Chris Krumnow<div>IT Specialist</div><div>Defiance Public Library System</div><div>Work:<a href="tel:419-782-1456" value="+14197821456" target="_blank">419-782-1456</a></div><div>Cell: <a href="tel:419-956-2767" value="+14199562767" target="_blank">419-956-2767</a></div><div><a href="http://defiancelibrary.org" target="_blank">defiancelibrary.org</a></div><div><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B0FBLSJNTfwucS1PeXNvYmlqREU&revid=0B0FBLSJNTfwucCtWZnNVODNwWXorRVVKTGtLdEFMRDJwZGlVPQ" width="96" height="61"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Bob Neeper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:neeperro@gmail.com" target="_blank">neeperro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>FWIW 5 minutes sounds exceedingly long to me.<br>
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<p>I suspect creeping slowness may be mostly due to windows updates.<br>
Saw that on previous version W2K PC's in the library.<br>
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<p>Failing hard drives might be contributing also.<br>
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<p>Happened to be in the library, so did a reboot on an older patron
W7 PC with DF.<br>
65 seconds from pressing restart to opening a webpage.</p>
<p>The W7 PC's have not had windows updates run, except for
IExplorer.</p>
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minutes, but I'm also using wireless laptops. I've also noticed
restart times with Deep Freeze add about 30 seconds at first but
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Deep
Freeze is Windows 10 compatible. We waited until
Cassie and Deep Freeze made the move before we began
upgrades.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Also,
if you have both Deep Freeze and Faronics AV (loaded
through the Deep Freeze console and not added
through Faronics core) on your public computers, the
same executable you used to install the Deep Freeze
program will uninstall it for you. You can uninstall
Faronics AV through the console or uninstall it
through Programs and Features or allow Faronics AV
to uninstall any previous versions of itself as you
install it again from the console, as well.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>We have upgraded a couple
of our public PCs to Windows 10 last year, as
well as a majority of the Staff PCs, and haven't
had many major issues*. </span>Faronics support
mentioned something about DeepFreeze (at the time)
not properly supporting the automatic updates of
Windows 10, but the latest version has been
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after the upgrade, and any subsequent upgrade (like
from 10240 to 10586), which broke the setup of our
Time Management Software, CybraryN.. It was a fairly
easy fix, but it's still a nuisance.</p>
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