<div dir="ltr">I was playing with this ages ago when I first stumbled on how imprecise the LJ measures really are. One way to solve the question of how to account for short sessions if you want to measure hours is to just sum up total time the PCs are in use and round to the nearest hour. I'm pretty sure Envisionware at least allows you to generate a report that shows actual time used. That way no one has to monkey around with session length or extending sessions at all. Ultimately this would have to be decided by IMLS, so we could start with asking the State Library to advocate for the change.<div><br></div><div>Also FWIW, I gave up playing around with this when I realized that the LJ rankings are unfairly biased towards urban systems due to higher population density. So for example, even though our rural system is in the same category as Grandview Heights, Twinsburg, Hudson, Lakewood, and Shaker Heights, we'll never compete with them because their user visits, circ, computer sessions, and program attendance will always be orders of magnitude greater than ours just because there are more users who are close enough to use the library.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Nick</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>C. Nicholas Tepe</div><div>Director</div><div>Athens County Public Libraries</div><div>95 W Washington St</div><div>Nelsonville, OH 45764</div><div>(740) 753-2118</div><div><a href="mailto:ntepe@myacpl.org" target="_blank">ntepe@myacpl.org</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.myacpl.org" target="_blank"><img src="https://static.myacpl.org/public/img/logo.png"></a></div><div> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MyACPL" target="_blank"><img src="http://clafiles.azurewebsites.net//images/icons/facebook-circle-icon.jpg"></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/myacpl" target="_blank"><img src="https://materion.com/~/media/Images/Icons/twitter.png"></a> <a href="http://myacpl.tumblr.com/" target="_blank"><img src="http://motorsportsdirectory.com/wp-content/themes/motorsportsdirectory/css/images/icons/tumblr-icon-25x25.png"></a> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/myacpl" target="_blank"><img src="https://s.yimg.com/pw/images/goodies/white-small-circle.png"></a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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1. Re: Public Internet computer session length? (Ruchie Rice)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Yes, but allowing one hour at a time doesn’t mean they will use it for an hour. Then do we not count those sessions? Ours are set to an hour except two computers
so we go by sessions, as in, per logon\logoffs. Also, they are automatically recorded which is convenient.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jan Berger<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Liz Rowe-Rawlinson' <<a href="mailto:l.rowe-rawlinson@rrpl.org" target="_blank">l.rowe-rawlinson@rrpl.org</a>>; 'Ed Worso' <<a href="mailto:ed.worso@geaugalibrary.info" target="_blank">ed.worso@geaugalibrary.info</a>>; 'Tom Casey' <<a href="mailto:TCASEY@libraryvisit.org" target="_blank">TCASEY@libraryvisit.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Interested in this.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We have 21 computers set for a one-hour default with 15 minute extensions for up to 1200 minutes per day. As long as there is always an available computer, a
patron could use a computer from 10:00am until we close at 8:00pm. We have had some do so with very few breaks for food.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Only one computer is set for 15 minutes only. For some reason, folks love to use it, even if plenty of other computers are open.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Jan M. Berger<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Liz Rowe-Rawlinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 7, 2016 12:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Ed Worso'; 'Tom Casey'<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arabic Typesetting";color:#1f4e79">Ed,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arabic Typesetting";color:#1f4e79">I second that. How can we get the ball rolling on this?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 07, 2016 11:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tom Casey <<a href="mailto:TCASEY@libraryvisit.org" target="_blank">TCASEY@libraryvisit.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Here's something to be considered: standardizing what "a session" means. In other words, the state report and LJ should list hours of public computer use with one hour
as the measure. That would allow consistency of measure for all locations so there isn't an opportunity of inflating numerical values by limiting sessions to 15 minutes but allowing unlimited sessions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Hi,<br>
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We have the computers set to one hour sessions as the default. These sessions will continue indefinitely if no one is waiting.<br>
Once there is a queue, patrons that have been using the computers for over an hour are given ten minutes to finish their session and are then logged off.<br>
We also have some fifteen minute express computers.<br>
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From: Ruchie Rice [mailto:<a href="mailto:rrice@fcdlibrary.org" target="_blank">rrice@fcdlibrary.org</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 2:04 PM<br>
To: Phil Shirley <<a href="mailto:pshirley@cuyahogafallslibrary.org" target="_blank">pshirley@<wbr>cuyahogafallslibrary.org</a>>; OPLINTECH <<a href="mailto:OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org</a>><br>
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We let them have 1 hr sessions which they can extend for up to a total of three hours. We have two express machines for 20 min use.<br>
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Ruchie Rice<br>
IT Coordinator<br>
Fairfield County District Library<br>
<a href="tel:740-6532745" target="_blank">740-6532745</a><br>
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From: OPLINTECH [mailto:<a href="mailto:oplintech-bounces@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech-bounces@<wbr>lists..oplin.org</a>] On Behalf Of Phil Shirley<br>
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To: OPLINTECH <<a href="mailto:OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">OPLINTECH@lists.oplin.org</a>><br>
Subject: [OPLINTECH] Public Internet computer session length?<br>
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When someone signs onto one of your public internet computers, how long is the session?<br>
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Most of ours are two hours, and we have four "express" computers where you get 20 minutes.<br>
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Our CASSIE software will log you off and reboot when your session is up; you can log on again unless someone is in the CASSIE queue.<br>
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You can have up to 240 minutes per day (or more if the staff choose to extend your time).<br>
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I was looking at the LJ library ratings and wondering about "public internet computer use." I think that's the number of sessions; it seems like that would depend a lot on how long the sessions are.<br>
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