<div dir="ltr">Hello...<div><br></div><div>We have done this on staff machines and it is a little bit tricky. Initially when windows 10 version 1607 came out , it was not compatible with Deep Freeze. Faronics has since updated it's software so it will play nice, so you want to make sure that you have the latest DeepFreeze in place before beginning the upgrades. Cassie will require a reinstall after you upgrade as there is some odd installer set inside Cassie that checks the OS when installing and only adds the file needed to run in Windows 10 if in fact the machine already has it. Not sure how this will effect Winselect as we do not use this.</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Chad Neeper via OPLINTECH <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oplintech@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech@lists.oplin.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dan,<div><br></div><div>For my part, I've reluctantly "upgraded" only a couple of libraries to Win10 so far. I actually like Win10 just fine on my own computer and on stand-alone computers. I can deal with it for staff computers, since they're only lightly managed and don't have any software that integrates deeply into the OS like Deep Freeze or Cassie. But I absolutely despise being forced into it for patron computers. Microsoft's Windows As A Service policy is too aggressive for computers that need to maintain a constant level of functionality and consistency. I don't WANT the computers to change. Security patches and bug fixes are good, but constant feature and OS changes is extremely difficult to deal with. I'm constantly on edge and aware that Deep Freeze could go bonkers with any OS change that Microsoft decides randomly to roll out. We had several tastes of incompatibilities with DF and Win8.x a few years ago, with devastating results and I've been on edge ever since. That's much worse with Win10.</div><div><br></div><div>The best answer I've been able to come up with so far is to employ WSUS and tightly manage or even stop the updates going to the computers with deeply-seated software like Deep Freeze and/or Cassie. That way, at least, once you get a stable Win10 configuration, you can be reasonably sure that it'll stay working and you can apply updates after first vetting them on a test computer that duplicates the production environment.</div><div><br></div><div>Rolling/frequent updates are generally good from a security perspective. But from a reliability and management perspective, having constant OS and feature changes is a real pain in the butt, especially when you're dealing with third-party applications that could be broken with any random update. For libraries, Windows 7 was and still is the perfect Windows platform, IMHO. </div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-overview" target="_blank">https://docs.microsoft.com/en-<wbr>us/windows/deployment/update/<wbr>waas-overview</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Above is a link to an article that describes some of the options for dealing with change. For instance, you have the option to use a Long Term Services Branch for mission critical (non-changing) computers. I've not dug into that myself, but maybe it's an option for some libraries.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Chad</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">** My opinions are strictly my own and do not necessarily reflect the company I work for. Oh wait...yes they do...I own the company! **</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_7423528787678157681gmail-m_3027165982307592592gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><font size="1">Senior Systems Engineer</font><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><font size="1"><a href="tel:(740)%20548-8070" value="+17405488070" target="_blank">740-548-8070</a> (voice)<br><a href="tel:(866)%20214-6607" value="+18662146607" target="_blank">866-214-6607</a> (fax)</font><br><br><font size="1"><i>Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools</i></font><br></div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Dan Moore via OPLINTECH <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oplintech@lists.oplin.org" target="_blank">oplintech@lists.oplin.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Computer support staff<br>
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I have been tinkering around with Windows 10 for our public computers and not having much success. We use Casie for time and print management, Winselect and Deep Freeze to lock down the computers. I have the latest versions of all three which are supposed to be Windows 10 compatible. Has any one had any success with a stable configuration of these?<br>
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