<div dir="ltr">Faronics' Deep Freeze seems to always work beautifully...when Microsoft doesn't break it. I never once had a problem with it until Windows 8 came along and Microsoft catastrophically broke (to the extent of needing a full Windows reinstall) it with two different Windows Updates over a 1-2 year period. Even since then, I've found it to be negatively impacted on several different occasions by a Windows Update. Fortunately, not quite to the extreme extent of the first of those two original events with Win8.x, but occasionally up to the level of what you've described. With that in mind, have you tried rolling back some of the more recent Windows Updates around the time you started experiencing the problem to see if you can pinpoint which one introduced the issue?<div><br></div><div>If you can identify the update that started your problems, perhaps you can buy yourself some time until Faronics can correct for the problem.</div><div><br></div><div>Naturally, I'm assuming it's a Windows Update that broke Deep Freeze here. That seems a reasonable assumption considering that the whole point in using DF in the first place is to control the state of the operating system and <u>prevent</u> change...and yet the one thing that's in a constant state of unpredictable change now IS the operating system. (Thanks, Microsoft.)</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>______________________________<br><b>Chad Neeper</b><br><font size="1">Senior Systems Engineer</font><br><br><b>Level 9 Networks</b><br><font size="1">740-548-8070 (voice)<br>866-214-6607 (fax)</font><br><br><font size="1"><i>Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in public libraries</i></font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 11:02 AM Chad via OPLINTECH <<a href="mailto:oplintech@lists.oplin.org">oplintech@lists.oplin.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-3941192772692249807"><u></u>




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<p>Has anyone else experienced the sporadic lockup of pcs using DeepFreeze?  The machines will just randomly lockup while patrons are using them and must be rebooted each time.  If you have experienced this and you have found a comparable replacement that you
 would recommend from experience using it, that would be greatly appreciated.  Running our public machines in a “thawed” state to avoid the issue is not an option for us.<u></u><u></u></p>
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