[DPLAsteering] Prototype budget and narrative

Fri Jan 22 09:54:51 EST 2016

I think type C institutions are the least likely to have an OCLC membership and wouldn’t have access to the OCLC Gateway. My last institution was not an OCLC member and would be classified as a type C, I know they wouldn’t join OCLC just to contribute to Ohio DPLA, though they would probably love to contribute.

Personally, I’m not in favor of an OCLC pilot. I don’t think we should let them use our project as a way to expand their business. But, I understand the politics may require something.

Many thanks to Terry for having the meeting with Taylor and providing us with detailed notes. And also for installing/hosting our sandbox!

Nathan

From: dplasteering-bounces at lists.oplin.org [mailto:dplasteering-bounces at lists.oplin.org] On Behalf Of Reese, Terry P.
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:16 AM
To: Stephen Hedges <stephen at oplin.ohio.gov>; dplasteering at lists.oplin.org
Subject: Re: [DPLAsteering] Prototype budget and narrative

Unless the licensing issue is corrected – no.  And certainly not at first as it only provides a data dump, not an interactive stream that notes adds, deletes, etc. that we’d expect and want from oai pmh.  So, this would fall into functionality that we’ve classified in the type C groups (those that can’t implement oai pmh on their collections).

But again, until OCLC solves the license problem, we couldn’t touch their metadata.  Doing so would put the hub in violation of the agreement you sign with DPLA (because the metadata coming from the collection manager would be license encumbered).

--tr

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Subject: Re: [DPLAsteering] Prototype budget and narrative

Isn't there a possibility that the OCLC Gateway could be just another path for getting data into the aggregator? So a ContentDM customer could streamline their workflow and prepare metadata for the local collection, WorldCat, and DPLA all in one step?

I think we certainly need to spend some time on the call today talking about OCLC.
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Stephen
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Reese, Terry P. <reese.2179 at osu.edu<mailto:reese.2179 at osu.edu>> wrote:
>> Is this a serious deal-breaker for participants who have no reason to be
>> an OCLC member (smaller museums and other cultural heritage institutions, for example?)

I have no idea how it works here in Ohio but I’ve worked with a number of folks on the west coast that had strong reasons why they weren’t OCLC members.  My guess is that this probably isn’t so much of a problem here in Ohio.   Regardless, any work with OCLC would require membership for all participants.

>> I wouldn’t say that anyone (OhioLINK, in this case) is anti-hub hosting

I didn’t mean to imply that anyone was anti-hub hosting – but as you’ve noted here – there has been a good deal of hesitancy to volunteer to pick this up because, even for a pilot, there will be a significant commitment of resources not just for new staff, but for staff with a very specific set of skills.  So while OCLC definitely has their own agendas, I wanted to make sure we’d fleshed out OCLC’s interest and talked about if this fits or not.

Best,

--tr

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Subject: Re: [DPLAsteering] Prototype budget and narrative

>>>> obviously, in order to use the harvester and infrastructure, everyone would need to be an OCLC member and have an OCLC symbol.

Is this a serious deal-breaker for participants who have no reason to be an OCLC member (smaller museums and other cultural heritage institutions, for example?) If OCLC is serious about this, it seems to me that they need to get their head out of library-only space.

I wouldn’t say that anyone (OhioLINK, in this case) is anti-hub hosting — we are willing to do it. However, we are not willing to do it without a robust sustainability and funding plan, and I would expect that to be true of any other organization in dplaOhio. I’ve discussed this briefly with Missy and Beverly, and there are some possibilities for the three year pilot that don’t depend on OhioLINK funding; but funding 1.5 - 2 FTE on a permanent basis has to be planned in an equitable manner.

Best, Gwen

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Subject: Re: [DPLAsteering] Prototype budget and narrative

Hi folks,

I looked over Liz’s DPLA Prototype narrative and it’s probably close.  What I would say about the Hydra solution, based on our own experiences, you’d likely need 1.5-2 fte.  There is the system itself (which needs a good deal of work if we were to move it forward to current Hydra/fedora), but Fedora is its own animal – then there is solr, etc.  I think the first two years, you’ll need significant developer time to move the project forward (or partner closely with Penn. or NY).  After two years, I think the role will be reduced – but the technical person will still need a very specific set of skills.  You will need a Programmer who is familiar with DevOps.  A traditional technologist or admin won’t be sufficient.

Also, I followed up from our last conversation with Taylor at OCLC.  They are keen to do a pilot, and talked about what they see as being able to offer.  I’m still not completely sold – but they are interested in a pilot, or at least having some further discussions.  I did find it interesting that they are also having some conversations with DPLA, mostly to see what complications DPLA might see on their end.

I’ve put together my notes from my meeting today.

--tr

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Subject: [DPLAsteering] Prototype budget and narrative

Good Morning:
Attached is the draft budget and narrative Liz prepared for the DPLA Prototype.  It has been shared with the State Librarian and the Executive Team and is now ready to be shared with the full Steering Committee in preparation for Friday’s call.  Please let Tom, Liz or I if you have any questions or concerns.  This will be an agenda item on Friday.
Have a good week,
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