[OPLINTECH] Application Delivery to PCs

Fri Jan 2 09:07:45 EST 2009

Greetings All,

Thanks for the good information on migrating to Office 2007.  Speaking of application delivery, my understanding is that Citrix XenApp 5.0 is a Windows application and does require Terminal Services CALS for the client PCs.  It costs just a few hundred dollars, but it would require the purchase of Terminal Services CALS for all clients, and its underlying platform is Microsoft Terminal Services.  It does add value to Terminals Services in that you could deliver applications to Linux clients as well as Microsoft clients.  If your clients are all Windows PCs, you could just run Terminal Services.  The link below contains some feature comparison information and a link to a trial offer for a downloadable virtual appliance which does require a Microsoft Virtual Server or a XenServer.

http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/subfeature.asp?contentID=1680516

TechSoup has the best price on Terminal Services CALS at $6.00 each!

http://www.techsoup.org/stock/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=TechSoupMain&category%5Fname=Servers+MS&Page=9

I am excited about Remote Applications in Windows Server 2008 since you can skip the desktop if you want and just load the applications.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/ts-product-home.aspx

Paula Dayhoff, MCSE W2000/NT4, Security+, CDIA+
Assistant Systems Administrator
Central Library Consortium
122 East Columbus St.
P.O. Box 269
Lithopolis, OH  43136
614-837-8533 x112
pdayhoff at clcohio.org

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From: oplintech-bounces at oplin.org [mailto:oplintech-bounces at oplin.org] On Behalf Of JKENZIG
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:21 AM
To: OPLINTECH
Subject: Re: [OPLINTECH] Office 2007 on public workstations?

By the time you spend all that extra money on memory you could buy a Server for your staff and put Citrix Xenapp on it and install all your applications on the server and deliver them centrally and have a single management point. One machine to update the apps on install of all of them. The IT staff time you will regain is measurable. Depending on the server you buy you can get 50 to 100 users on a server.(sorry couldn't resist)

Jim Kenzig
Network Manager
Cuyahoga County Public Library

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From: oplintech-bounces at oplin.org [mailto:oplintech-bounces at oplin.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hensel
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:13 PM
To: 'Craig Heaton'
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Subject: Re: [OPLINTECH] [OPLINLIST] Office 2007 on public workstations?

We also follow the standard of 1 gig for public and 2 gig of ram for staff computers (especially for Vista machines).

Mike Hensel
Communications/Marketing Manager
London Public Library
20 E. First Street
London, OH 43140
Voice: 740-852-9543
Fax: 740-852-3691
Cell: 614-325-1429
henselmi at oplin.org
www.london.lib.oh.us

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From: oplintech-bounces at oplin.org [mailto:oplintech-bounces at oplin.org] On Behalf Of Mann, James H.
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:09 PM
To: Nick Kelley; Craig Heaton
Cc: OPLINTECH; oplinlist at oplin.org
Subject: Re: [OPLINTECH] [OPLINLIST] Office 2007 on public workstations?

GCPL put out Office 2007 for the public in July. Also on new computers (to take advantage of the XP downgrade solution). No real problems. But, we brought in a trainer from the Vocational school to train staff so they could answer questions from the public.
Open Office would have been my first choice since there is less of a learning curve but IMHO no one seems ready to jump on the FOSS bandwagon just yet.
Also, we had previously installed the Office 07 converter since we had so many issues with patrons bringing in 07 documents.
My theory, which seems to be holding true, is that if you have such a big demand from patrons to open 07 documents they are creating at home or school than there is no big learning curve for patrons when you upgrade.
Memory keeps getting cheaper and we're trying to get staff to 2gigs and the public 1gig which seems to resolve most issues with running multiple applications.

Have a safe holiday and a great New year!

Jim

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From: oplinlist-bounces at oplin.org [oplinlist-bounces at oplin.org] On Behalf Of Nick Kelley [nkelley at lkwdpl.org]
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:28 PM
To: Craig Heaton
Cc: OPLINTECH; oplinlist at oplin.org
Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Office 2007 on public workstations?

Hi Craig,

We have been using Office 2007 for the past 6 months. We had to make some modifications to make the default file type compatible with older Office versions and we have had to train staff and public on some of the differences but everyone seems to be adjusting. Also, we are lucky we purchased new computers recently so the RAM issue hasn't been a problem. If you can add more memory that would probably fix that problem.

Nick

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Craig Heaton <heatoncr at oplin.org<mailto:heatoncr at oplin.org>> wrote:
Hello,
I'm wondering how many library systems are offering Microsoft Office 2007 on their public workstations?  If you aren't, what alternatives do you offer?
An older version of Office?  A version of OpenOffice?

We are considering installing it onto the public workstations, but I'm reluctant to do so as it has been problematic for us on the staff workstations (resoure hog which requires us to increase installed base of RAM, interactions with our catalog software and other Java based apps, corruption of data tables, etc.).

Craig Heaton
System Administrator
Clermont County Public Library
heatoncr at oplin.org<mailto:heatoncr at oplin.org>

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