[OPLINTECH] laptops

Thu May 7 11:51:41 EDT 2015

Coshocton uses Lenovo Thinkpad Edge series (current model is E550).  They
seem to hold up pretty good.  Our lab computers are HP Probook 4520.
Between the two, I think I like the Lenovo computers better.  Back in the
XP days, we had Dell Latitudes.  I would pick Lenovo or HP over them.  Just
my opinion.  I am with Chad on the SSD drives.  Once you have those in a
system it is hard to go back to the other drives.  Night and day difference
between speed, and not just at boot up.  Windows updates install faster
also.  I would much rather do updates and maintenance on a SSD drive
because it takes less of my time.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Chris Krumnow <ckrumnow at defiancelibrary.org
> wrote:

> All library management and patron devices are laptops here. For the
> management, we went with Lenovo ThinkPads E40 or E41 with i7 processors.
> Our new patron laptops are HP. I won't go back to Dell. After seeing the
> toll daily use takes on the entertainment laptops from Dell, we chose to go
> with laptops that could take the daily punishment. We get our computers
> through CDWG.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Krumnow
> IT Specialist
> Defiance Public Library System
> Work:419-782-1456
> Cell: 419-956-2767
> defiancelibrary.org
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Chad Neeper <cneeper at level9networks.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sad, but probably true. Different margins for different customers has
>> always been around, I'm sure. It's just a lot easier to discriminate with
>> technology.
>>
>> I even see it as a re-seller. I buy most of my stuff directly from
>> national distributors. The distributors get it directly from the
>> manufacturers. I work most with two big distributors. For several years I
>> purchased mostly through one and used the other as a back-up if the first
>> didn't have what I needed in stock. Pricing was usually better at my
>> primary distributor also.
>>
>> Eventually, my "dedicated sales rep" from my secondary distributor
>> started calling, asking about my business, etc...(I'm sure trying to
>> increase my business to them.) I just simply mentioned how I do my
>> purchases, told him who my primary was and that he was my secondary/backup.
>>
>> Wasn't too long after that I started noticing that my pricing was very
>> notably lower on just about every item. It still is, several years later.
>> Hmmm....
>>
>> (Yeah, of course I switched them around! LOL!)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________
>> *Chad Neeper*
>> Senior Systems Engineer
>>
>> *Level 9 Networks*
>> 740-548-8070 (voice)
>> 866-214-6607 (fax)
>>
>> *Full IT/Computer consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and
>> schools*
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Rachelle Miller <rmiller at tmcpl.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In case you didn’t know this….
>>>
>>> Just beware of price discrimination—identical or like goods are given
>>> different prices based on markets or territories. You will get different
>>> prices based on your IP address, your business etc. It even helps to clear
>>> your cache so you are potentially seen as a “new” customer and given a
>>> lower price. The commercial and consumer models may actually be the same
>>> thing. Here are a few articles about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From CNN <http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/24/ramasastry.website.prices/>:
>>>
>>> “Another report indicated that Dell Computer has offered the same model
>>> laptop at different prices to different customers: small businesses, health
>>> care companies, and state and local businesses were offered different
>>> deals.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Price Discrimination
>>> <http://www.mcafee.cc/Papers/PDF/ABAPriceDiscrimination.pdf> (from 2008)
>>>
>>> The Web site of computer manufacturer Dell asks prospective buyers to
>>> declare whether they are a home user, small business, large business or
>>> government entity. Two years ago, the price of a 512 MB memory module, part
>>> number A0193405, depended on which business segment one declared. At that
>>> time, Dell quoted $289.99 for a large business, $266.21 for a government
>>> agency, $275.49 for a home, and $246.49 for a
>>>
>>> small business.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rachelle Miller, Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Troy-Miami County Public Library
>>>
>>> 419 W. Main St.
>>>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> 937 339-0502 x 116
>>>
>>> rmiller at tmcpl.org | troypubliclibrary.org
>>>
>>> *Troy-Miami County Public Library seeks to maintain and improve the
>>> quality of life for all residents by providing resources that enhance and
>>> contribute to individual knowledge and enjoyment. The library provides
>>> access to information and collections that reflect all points of view.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org [mailto:
>>> oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org] *On Behalf Of *Tim Burns
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:11 AM
>>> *To:* oplintech at lists.oplin.org
>>> *Subject:* [OPLINTECH] laptops
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We're getting ready to order some admin staff laptops and was wondering
>>> everyone's opinion on comsumer vs. commercial grade laptops.
>>>
>>> …<snip>...
>>>
>>> Is the business commercial grade laptops worth the extra money to get
>>> them for a small library system? Comments and thoughts much appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fred Miller Jr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ——
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anymore I try to determine what users are doing. When it made sense to
>>> provide my kids laptops for school (somewhere during early HS  years) I
>>> bought them (on eBay) Apple MacBooks.  The software/hardware integration
>>> with project-oriented learning made this an easy choice. No real concern
>>> about “gaming” or sharing software— these were meant to be tools. The
>>> MacBooks would not die, and lasted 6-8 years through HS and college.
>>> Unfortunately for them, now they are old enough and resourceful enough to
>>> replace the machines on their own dime.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That being said, I don’t know that I would do this the same way today.
>>> Given that they were locked in to technology that was eventually 10+ years
>>> old, and still working flawlessly, they miss out on whatever developments
>>> occur. Instead of say, $600 spent once, I might consider <$200 outlay for a
>>> Chromebook … which I consider disposable, and plan to replace it every
>>> 2.5-3 years. The ChromeOS is reasonable mature, the experience is meant to
>>> be cloud-based, and it integrates with other technology well. (ie. Android
>>> Phone).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks like tech companies (Google, MS, Apple) are trading software
>>> for data now, so the cost of software upgrades has gone away… well, I
>>> suppose that’s true if your data is worthless :)  So as long as your
>>> hardware will support it— you can have the latest greatest for a while.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ——
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Burns, Technologist
>>>
>>> Birchard Public Library of Sandusky County Ohio
>>>
>>> Department of Nuts and Bots
>>>
>>> tim.burns at birchard.lib.oh.us
>>>
>>> telephone: (419) 334-7101 extension: 239
>>>
>>>
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