[OPLINLIST] OPLINLIST Digest, Vol 117, Issue 16

Thu Jul 9 13:29:54 EDT 2015

For those curious about the differences between the Ohio Means Jobs package
and what will be going away, I've had several conversations with Learning
Express Library to clarify:

Essentially 80% of the content will continue to be available on the Ohio
Means Jobs page, as many of you have found.  Since this resource was
purchased for the content and not the LEL platform by Monster.com, it
doesn't exactly operate as smoothly as its previous reiteration.  It's
essentially designed as a job search site instead of a typical database,
since that specific package was structured for the Department of Labor.  If
you were to theoretically consider purchasing LEL individually, you'd be
picking up about 20% more content and the platform.  Otherwise, you can
continue to access everything through the Ohio Means Jobs page.

Hope that helps,
Carrie

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:42 PM, <oplinlist-request at lists.oplin.org> wrote:

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>    3. Re: Learning Express Revisited (Nick Tepe)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Patty O'Connor" <poconnor at marysvillelib.org>
> To: "oplinlist at lists.oplin.org" <oplinlist at lists.oplin.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 21:16:55 +0000
> Subject: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express on OhioMeansJobs
>
> When you are on the page with just the 4 assessments, click on the green
> bar that says “Access Learning Express Anonymously” and you will see all
> the rest of the stuff from LEL. As with LEL, if a patron wants to save
> their scores and such, they create an account for OhioMeansJobs.
>
>
>
> Patty O’Connor
> Adult Services Manager
> Marysville Public Library
>
> 231 S. Plum St.
>
> Marysville, OH 43040
>
> 937-642-1876, ext. 32
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> www.marysvillelib.org
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>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sue Provenzale <Sue.Provenzale at westlakelibrary.org>
> To: "Patty O'Connor" <poconnor at marysvillelib.org>, "
> oplinlist at lists.oplin.org" <oplinlist at lists.oplin.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 17:26:04 -0400
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express on OhioMeansJobs
>  Thank you for pointing that out.  It was right under my nose.
>
> Sue Provenzale
> Business Specialist
> Westlake Porter Public Library
> 27333 Center Ridge Rd.
> Westlake, Ohio 44145
> 440-250-5460
> Sue.Provenzale at westlakelibrary.org
>
> "If past history was all there was to the game, the richest people would
> be librarians." Warren Buffett
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Patty O'Connor" <poconnor at marysvillelib.org>
> Sent: 7/8/2015 5:17:13 PM
> To: "oplinlist at lists.oplin.org" <oplinlist at lists.oplin.org>
> Subject: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express on OhioMeansJobs
>
>  When you are on the page with just the 4 assessments, click on the green
> bar that says “Access Learning Express Anonymously” and you will see all
> the rest of the stuff from LEL. As with LEL, if a patron wants to save
> their scores and such, they create an account for OhioMeansJobs.
>
>
>
> Patty O’Connor
> Adult Services Manager
> Marysville Public Library
>
> 231 S. Plum St.
>
> Marysville, OH 43040
>
> 937-642-1876, ext. 32
>
> www.marysvillelib.org
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nick Tepe <ntepe at crcpl.org>
> To: "oplinlist at lists.oplin.org" <oplinlist at lists.oplin.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 21:41:11 +0000
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>  Learning Express is, in fact, completely there and available in OMJ if
> you click on "Access Learning Express Anonymously" from the page Stephen
> linked. However as was already observed, you do have to create an OMJ
> account to asave your progress. This isn't really any different than what
> we did before, it's just that now you need a complete OMJ account rather
> than just the Learning Express account. Once you are logged in this is what
> you see :
>
>
>  If you click "Visit My Assessments Page" under non-core tests you find
> the complete Learning Express product:
>
>
>  That should look familiar to everyone. :-)
>
>  On a broader note though, I think it would be a good idea if we all
> trusted that OPLIN did their homework and ensured that we weren't losing
> anything when they decided to discontinue paying for Learning Express in
> OWL, especially since it meant that the State was paying for the same
> product twice. I like EBSCO, but as a taxpayer I don't think it's a good
> idea to pay them double what we have to.
>
>  Addtionally, as much as we may not like the site as it stands, there is
> no question that OMJ is here to stay. It is the governor's project, so it
> will always take priority. That being the case the best thing we can do as
> information professionals is to learn the site as well as possible so we
> can help our patrons, and contact OMJ with productive suggestions on how to
> make the site work better. I've also reached out to OMJ for on-site
> training for my staff, and they have been very receptive to sending somone
> to work with my staff on how to use the site.
>
>  This is what we do. Let's show them how it's done!
>
>  Nick Tepe
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Sue Provenzale [Sue.Provenzale at westlakelibrary.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2015 4:58 PM
> *To:* Eric Taggart; Stephen Hedges
> *Cc:* oplinlist at lists.oplin.org; Susan Pieper
> *Subject:* Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
>  There is a lot banter comparing the resources found at Ohio Means Jobs
> to those available through Learning Express.
>
> There appears to be four practice assessments at Ohio Means Jobs plus many
> Veteran Resources geared for our veterans re-entering the workforce.
>
> Learning Express, on the other hand, has nine learning centers with four
> or more learning resources per learning center and even more tests and
> practices as you work through the layers.  The Learning Express resources
> address the needs of a much broader audience with ACT and SAT prep,
> exploring careers, Elementary, Middle, and High School resources, resources
> our spanish speaking population, etc.
>
> It seems to me that the resources found at Ohio Means Jobs are a fraction
> of what can be found at Learning Express and thus can not possibly fill the
> void.
>
> Is it possible that I am missing a link on Ohio Means Jobs that leads to
> more of the traditional Learning Express resources or is "what you see is
> what you get"?  If not, I don't see how "our patrons will still have access
> to this resource, even if the means to getting it will change"
>
> Sue Provenzale
> Business Specialist
> Westlake Porter Public Library
> 27333 Center Ridge Rd.
> Westlake, Ohio 44145
> 440-250-5460
> Sue.Provenzale at westlakelibrary.org
>
> "If past history was all there was to the game, the richest people would
> be librarians." Warren Buffett
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: "Eric Taggart" <etaggart at coshoctonlibrary.org>
> Sent: 7/8/2015 2:59:37 PM
> To: "Stephen Hedges" <stephen at oplin.ohio.gov>
> Cc: oplinlist at lists.oplin.org, "Susan Pieper" <susanhillpieper at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Stephen- glad our patrons will still have
> access to this resource, even if the means to getting it will change.
> On Jul 8, 2015 2:49 PM, "Stephen Hedges" <stephen at oplin.ohio.gov> wrote:
>
>> Wow, it sounds like no one will ever see LearningExpress again!
>>
>> Remember, it's here, and will stay here:
>> https://jobseeker.ohiomeansjobs.monster.com/Assessments/Home.aspx
>>
>> What goes away after August 9 is this:
>> http://ohioweblibrary.org/db/lel
>> ...and similar access points currently available through OhioLINK (which
>> includes the State Library) and INFOhio.
>>
>> Stephen
>>  --
>>  Stephen Hedges, Director
>>  [Note new email: stephen at oplin.ohio.gov]
>>
>> Ohio Public Library Information Network
>> 2323 W. Fifth Ave., Suite 130, Columbus 43204
>> 614-728-5252
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>>
>>
>> From: oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org <
>> oplinlist-bounces at lists.oplin.org> on behalf of Susan Pieper <
>> susanhillpieper at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:38 PM
>> To: oplinlist at lists.oplin.org
>> Subject: [OPLINLIST] Learning Express Revisited
>>
>>
>> Stephen Hedges has confirmed what I had feared, that we will lose the
>> Assessment and Training component of Learning Express Hub as it appears on
>> the Workforce Skills for the 21st Century and via The State Library of
>> Ohio.
>>
>>
>> In a time when the governor and legislature is pushing retraining and
>> improving job skills, it just does not make sense to drop this database.
>> Our rural community depends on access to these training tools to hone
>> skills in everything from computer use  to studying for college prep tests
>> to training for certification in a number of fields.
>>
>>
>> When we provide computer training, we highlight these resources and folks
>> are thrilled to learn about them. We will be hard-pressed to find resources
>> as organized and as easily navigable as these are.
>>
>>
>> If anyone has any insights to another resource (besides YouTube and
>> googling for training materials), please let me know. I am very
>> disappointed at the loss of this database.
>> Susan
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>>
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>> Director/Librarian
>> Paulding County Carnegie Library
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