[OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software
JKENZIG
JKENZIG@cuyahoga.lib.oh.us
Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:27:15 -0400
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Agreed,
Space is always a concern if you don't have it. As far as staffing though
you still have to have staff help with logging the patrons back on and
collecting for print jobs, and refilling printers etc. I don't see a
benefit there. You are just changing the tasks.
If you really must go this route, here is an interesting solution I've found
http://www.spragers.com/PCC/temp.html
<http://www.spragers.com/PCC/temp.html> that may be less expensive.
There is also the Public Web Browser from team software that has time
controls in it. http://www.teamsoftwaresolutions.com/
<http://www.teamsoftwaresolutions.com/>
Jim Kenzig
Network Manager
Cuyahoga County Public Library
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From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:18 PM
To: JKENZIG
Subject: RE: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software
Well, more PC's are not always a possibility. You have problems of space
requirements and of staff involvement. I think that the primary reasoning
for the use of these systems is to get the management of PC availability out
of the hands of the floor staff and into a scenario where PC availability
can more closely follow library policy. Staff generally feel that having to
deal with customers who won't get off of PC's when others have been waiting
is a huge annoyance and a waste of their time where they could be assisting
customers with reference questions. We're looking at one of these systems
right now, and from the management's standpoint, being able to recoup some
costs from printing and lessening staff involvement are of great importance.
It's a benefit that more customers will be able to use the PC's during the
day.
Our policies are going to be very lenient so that even if a customer has
been on a PC for a lengthy period of time, unless another customer is
waiting to use a PC, they will be able to continue using the PC's. There
will be no daily limits, but it may be possible that the customer might have
to switch to another machine if another customer has signed up to the use
the current PC. The fact is that you can make it fair, as long as you do it
the right way.
Matt Hoffman
Network Administrator
Cleveland Heights-University Heights Public Library
216-932-3600 x 77284 (fax) 216-932-0932
www.heightslibrary.org <http://www.heightslibrary.org/>
-----Original Message-----
From: oplintech-admin@oplin.org [mailto:oplintech-admin@oplin.org] On Behalf
Of JKENZIG
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:57 PM
To: 'OPLINTECH'
Subject: RE: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software
Not really a direct answer to the question and people on the list have heard
this before from me but here goes again...Why are you going out of your way
to limit what your patrons can do? Wouldn't your money be better spent on
buying more workstations so you have more points of access and wouldn't have
to limit the time and also put some of that aside to buy extra paper? I
know these systems are VERY expensive and require yearly maintence fees. I
just don't believe that they are the way to go to resolve issues with
patrons waiting. Is it really the best way to spend the taxpayers dollars to
benefit them?
Jim Kenzig
Network Manager
Cuyahoga County Public Library
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From: Mike Hensel [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:41 PM
To: OPLINTECH
Subject: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software
OPLINTECH:
First, thanks for the information on Tech Connections 6.
Second, I recently had a sales representative from CMS visit the library to
do a demonstration on PC Cop, a time software and print management system. I
was quite impressed with the product. I have also investigated PC
Reservation so I know all about that product.
My question is - has anyone heard any information, good or bad, on PC Cop. I
would like to get a better idea of local use in Ohio. It is my
understanding that CMS has a big portion of the market out West and is
currently trying to expand to the East where PC Reservation has dominated.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike Hensel
Communications & Marketing Manager
London Public Library
20 E. First Street
London, OH 43140
(740) 852-9543 Voice
(740) 852-3691 Fax
www.london.lib.oh.us <http://www.london.lib.oh.us/>
henselmi@oplin.org <mailto:henselmi@oplin.org>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff>Agreed,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>Space
is always a concern if you don't have it. As far as staffing though
you still have to have staff help with logging the patrons back on and
collecting for print jobs, and refilling printers etc. I don't see a
benefit there. You are just changing the tasks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>If
you really must go this route, here is an interesting solution I've found
<A
href="http://www.spragers.com/PCC/temp.html">http://www.spragers.com/PCC/temp.html</A> that
may be less expensive. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>There
is also the Public Web Browser from team software that has time controls in
it. <A
href="http://www.teamsoftwaresolutions.com/">http://www.teamsoftwaresolutions.com/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>Jim
Kenzig</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff>Network Manager</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff>Cuyahoga County Public Library</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=639342319-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Matt Hoffman [mailto:.org]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
JKENZIG<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Well,
more PC's are not always a possibility. You have problems of space
requirements and of staff involvement. I think that the primary reasoning
for the use of these systems is to get the management of PC availability out of
the hands of the floor staff and into a scenario where PC availability can more
closely follow library policy. Staff generally feel that having to deal
with customers who won't get off of PC's when others have been waiting is a huge
annoyance and a waste of their time where they could be assisting customers with
reference questions. We're looking at one of these systems right now, and
from the management's standpoint, being able to recoup some costs from printing
and lessening staff involvement are of great importance. It's a
benefit that more customers will be able to use the PC's during the day.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Our
policies are going to be very lenient so that even if a customer has been on a
PC for a lengthy period of time, unless another customer is waiting to use a PC,
they will be able to continue using the PC's. There will be no daily
limits, but it may be possible that the customer might have to switch to another
machine if another customer has signed up to the use the current PC. The
fact is that you can make it fair, as long as you do it the right
way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matt Hoffman<BR>Network
Administrator<BR>Cleveland Heights-University Heights Public
Library<BR>216-932-3600 x 77284 (fax) 216-932-0932<BR><A
href="http://www.heightslibrary.org/">www.heightslibrary.org</A></FONT></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
oplintech-admin@oplin.org [mailto:oplintech-admin@oplin.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>JKENZIG<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:57 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'OPLINTECH'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop
Software<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>Not
really a direct answer to the question and people on the list have heard this
before from me but here goes again...Why are you going out of your way to
limit what your patrons can do? Wouldn't your money be better spent on
buying more workstations so you have more points of access and wouldn't have
to limit the time and also put some of that aside to buy extra
paper? I know these systems are VERY expensive and require yearly
maintence fees. I just don't believe that they are the way to go
to resolve issues with patrons waiting. Is it really the best way to spend the
taxpayers dollars to benefit them?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>Jim
Kenzig</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff>Network Manager</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT
color=#0000ff>Cuyahoga County Public Library</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Mike Hensel [mailto:] <BR><B>Sent:</B>
Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B> OPLINTECH<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial
size=2>OPLINTECH:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>First, thanks for
the information on Tech Connections 6. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Second, I recently
had a sales representative from CMS visit the library to do a
demonstration on PC Cop, a time software and print management system. I
was quite impressed with the product. I have also investigated PC Reservation
so I know all about that product.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>My question is -
has anyone heard any information, good or bad, on PC Cop. I would like to get
a better idea of local use in Ohio. It is my understanding
that CMS has a big portion of the market out West and is
currently trying to expand to the East where PC Reservation has
dominated. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any information
would be appreciated.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>Mike Hensel</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>Communications &
Marketing Manager</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>London Public
Library</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>20 E. First
Street</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>London, OH
43140</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>(740) 852-9543
Voice</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>(740) 852-3691
Fax</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2><A
href="http://www.london.lib.oh.us/">www.london.lib.oh.us</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2><A
href="mailto:henselmi@oplin.org">henselmi@oplin.org</A></FONT></DIV>
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