FW: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software

JKENZIG JKENZIG@cuyahoga.lib.oh.us
Wed, 6 Apr 2005 15:38:14 -0400


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Also Mark just suggested an even better idea to me  which we are now
implementing .... If space really is a limitation you could spend the money
on a WIreless solution and buy wireless webtablets that patrons can use
anywhere in the branch.   We have been able to put in about 10 web tablets
with cisco wireless access for about $15,000 a branch.  Not only does this
give you more access points but now patrons can bring there own wireless
devices in. 
 
Jim
 

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From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:mhoffman@heightslibrary.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:18 PM
To: JKENZIG
Subject: RE: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software


Well, more PC's are not always a possibility.  You have problems of space
requirements and of staff involvement.  I think that the primary reasoning
for the use of these systems is to get the management of PC availability out
of the hands of the floor staff and into a scenario where PC availability
can more closely follow library policy.  Staff generally feel that having to
deal with customers who won't get off of PC's when others have been waiting
is a huge annoyance and a waste of their time where they could be assisting
customers with reference questions.  We're looking at one of these systems
right now, and from the management's standpoint, being able to recoup some
costs from printing and lessening staff involvement are of great importance.
It's a benefit that more customers will be able to use the PC's during the
day.  
 
Our policies are going to be very lenient so that even if a customer has
been on a PC for a lengthy period of time, unless another customer is
waiting to use a PC, they will be able to continue using the PC's.  There
will be no daily limits, but it may be possible that the customer might have
to switch to another machine if another customer has signed up to the use
the current PC.  The fact is that you can make it fair, as long as you do it
the right way.
 
Matt Hoffman
Network Administrator
Cleveland Heights-University Heights Public Library
216-932-3600 x 77284  (fax) 216-932-0932
www.heightslibrary.org <http://www.heightslibrary.org/> 

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From: oplintech-admin@oplin.org [mailto:oplintech-admin@oplin.org] On Behalf
Of JKENZIG
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:57 PM
To: 'OPLINTECH'
Subject: RE: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software


Not really a direct answer to the question and people on the list have heard
this before from me but here goes again...Why are you going out of your way
to limit what your patrons can do?  Wouldn't your money be better spent on
buying more workstations so you have more points of access and wouldn't have
to limit the time and also put some of that aside to buy extra paper?  I
know these systems are VERY expensive and require yearly maintence fees.   I
just don't believe that they are the way to go to resolve issues with
patrons waiting. Is it really the best way to spend the taxpayers dollars to
benefit them?
 
Jim Kenzig
Network Manager
Cuyahoga County Public Library

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From: Mike Hensel [mailto:] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:41 PM
To: OPLINTECH
Subject: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software


OPLINTECH:
 
First, thanks for the information on Tech Connections 6. 
 
Second, I recently had a sales representative from CMS visit the library to
do a demonstration on PC Cop, a time software and print management system. I
was quite impressed with the product. I have also investigated PC
Reservation so I know all about that product.
 
My question is - has anyone heard any information, good or bad, on PC Cop. I
would like to get a better idea of local use in Ohio.  It is my
understanding that CMS has a big portion of the market out West and is
currently trying to expand to the East where PC Reservation has dominated. 
 
Any information would be appreciated.
 
Thanks, 
 
Mike Hensel
Communications & Marketing Manager
London Public Library
20 E. First Street
London, OH 43140
(740) 852-9543 Voice
(740) 852-3691 Fax
www.london.lib.oh.us <http://www.london.lib.oh.us/> 
henselmi@oplin.org <mailto:henselmi@oplin.org> 
 
 


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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=561103319-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>Also 
Mark just suggested an even&nbsp;better idea to me<SPAN 
class=311193619-06042005>&nbsp; which we are now implementing&nbsp;</SPAN>.... 
If space really is a limitation you could spend the money on a WIreless solution 
and buy wireless webtablets that patrons can use anywhere in the 
branch.&nbsp;<SPAN class=311193619-06042005>&nbsp;&nbsp;We have been able 
to&nbsp;put in about 10 web tablets with cisco wireless&nbsp;access for about 
$15,000 a branch.&nbsp; Not only does this give you more access points but now 
patrons can bring there own wireless devices 
in.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=561103319-06042005><SPAN 
class=311193619-06042005>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=561103319-06042005><FONT 
color=#0000ff>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=561103319-06042005><FONT 
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Matt Hoffman 
[mailto:mhoffman@heightslibrary.org] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 06, 2005 
3:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> JKENZIG<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop 
Software<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Well, 
more PC's are not always a possibility.&nbsp; You have problems of space 
requirements and of staff involvement.&nbsp; I think that the primary reasoning 
for the use of these systems is to get the management of PC availability out of 
the hands of the floor staff and into a scenario where PC availability can more 
closely follow library policy.&nbsp; Staff generally feel that having to deal 
with customers who won't get off of PC's when others have been waiting is a huge 
annoyance and a waste of their time where they could be assisting customers with 
reference questions.&nbsp; We're looking at one of these systems right now, and 
from the management's standpoint, being able to recoup some costs from printing 
and lessening staff involvement are of great importance.&nbsp; It's&nbsp;a 
benefit that more customers will be able to use the PC's during the day.&nbsp; 
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Our 
policies are going to be very lenient so that even if a customer has been on a 
PC for a lengthy period of time, unless another customer is waiting to use a PC, 
they will be able to continue using the PC's.&nbsp; There will be no daily 
limits, but it may be possible that the customer might have to switch to another 
machine if another customer has signed up to the use the current PC.&nbsp; The 
fact is that you can make it fair, as long as you do it the right 
way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=584231119-06042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matt Hoffman<BR>Network 
Administrator<BR>Cleveland Heights-University Heights Public 
Library<BR>216-932-3600 x 77284&nbsp; (fax) 216-932-0932<BR><A 
href="http://www.heightslibrary.org/">www.heightslibrary.org</A></FONT></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  oplintech-admin@oplin.org [mailto:oplintech-admin@oplin.org] <B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>JKENZIG<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:57 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  'OPLINTECH'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OPLINTECH] PC Cop 
  Software<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>Not 
  really a direct answer to the question and people on the list have heard this 
  before from me but here goes again...Why are you going out of your way to 
  limit what your patrons can do?&nbsp; Wouldn't your money be better spent on 
  buying more workstations so you have more points of access and wouldn't have 
  to limit the time and also&nbsp;put some of that aside to buy extra 
  paper?&nbsp; I know these systems are VERY expensive and require yearly 
  maintence fees.&nbsp;&nbsp; I just don't believe that they are the way to go 
  to resolve issues with patrons waiting. Is it really the best way to spend the 
  taxpayers dollars to benefit them?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT 
  color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT color=#0000ff>Jim 
  Kenzig</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT 
  color=#0000ff>Network Manager</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405555118-06042005><FONT 
  color=#0000ff>Cuyahoga County Public Library</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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  <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Mike Hensel [mailto:] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 
  Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B> OPLINTECH<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
  [OPLINTECH] PC Cop Software<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>OPLINTECH:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>First, thanks for 
  the information&nbsp;on Tech Connections 6. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Second, I recently 
  had a&nbsp;sales representative&nbsp;from CMS visit the library to do&nbsp;a 
  demonstration on PC Cop,&nbsp;a time software and print management system. I 
  was quite impressed with the product. I have also investigated PC Reservation 
  so I know all about that product.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>My question is - 
  has anyone heard any information, good or bad, on PC Cop. I would like to get 
  a better idea of local use in Ohio.&nbsp; It is my understanding 
  that&nbsp;CMS&nbsp;has a big portion of the market out West and&nbsp;is 
  currently&nbsp;trying to expand to the East where PC Reservation has 
  dominated. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any information 
  would be appreciated.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=586392918-06042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks, 
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>Mike Hensel</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>Communications &amp; 
  Marketing Manager</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>London Public 
  Library</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>20 E.&nbsp;First 
  Street</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>London, OH 
  43140</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>(740) 852-9543 
  Voice</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2>(740) 852-3691 
  Fax</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2><A 
  href="http://www.london.lib.oh.us/">www.london.lib.oh.us</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#800000 size=2><A 
  href="mailto:henselmi@oplin.org">henselmi@oplin.org</A></FONT></DIV>
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