[OPLINTECH] Windows 10?

Thu Jul 7 11:47:34 EDT 2016

On the creeping slow booting Win10 computers, have you disabled Fast
Startup? That could be related to the creep.

On a domain joined Win10 computer with SSD, I disable hibernation which
subsequently deletes the huge hiberfil.sys and also disables Fast Startup,
which interferes with Wake On LAN features in Win10. If memory serves, Fast
Startup interferes with installing Windows Updates at Shutdown and may
conceivably be related to a boot time creep.

And yeah. Five minutes is really long. Definitely no more than a minute,
especially on newish computers.

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On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Jordan Cooper <jcooper at myacpl.org> wrote:

> A little late to the party, but I want to further reiterate that you
> definitely, definitely need to uninstall DeepFreeze before upgrading
> (twice: once from ignorance and the other because a patron somehow found a
> way to upgrade one).
>
> RE: Boot times: That's the one issue that's been plaguing the patron
> Win10/DeepFreeze machines.  I've yet to find a way to deal with it because
> it doesn't seem to follow any rhyme or reason that I can discern.  On some
> models (Asus Pro desktops I bought last February), it takes an exorbitantly
> long time to boot and the bulk of the wait is when it first gets to the
> desktop.  The taskbar program icons and desktop shortcuts are missing and
> it just sticks there for a minute or two before loading it.  I intend to
> keep troubleshooting and playing with them, but have yet to find a
> solution.  Conversely, on some of the older (1-2-year-old) computers, it
> seems to work just fine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Jordan Cooper*
> *Technology Associate*
> Athens County Public Libraries
> jcooper at myacpl.org
> (740) 590-1643
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Chris Krumnow <
> ckrumnow at defiancelibrary.org> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> What are the specs of this magic machine?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Krumnow
>> IT Specialist
>> Defiance Public Library System
>> Work:419-782-1456
>> Cell: 419-956-2767
>> defiancelibrary.org
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Bob Neeper <neeperro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW   5 minutes sounds exceedingly long to me.
>>>
>>> I suspect creeping slowness may be mostly due to windows updates.
>>> Saw that on previous version W2K PC's in the library.
>>>
>>> Failing hard drives might be contributing also.
>>>
>>> Happened to be in the library, so did a reboot on an older patron W7 PC
>>> with DF.
>>> 65 seconds from pressing restart to opening a webpage.
>>>
>>> The W7 PC's have not had windows updates run, except for IExplorer.
>>>
>>> R. W. (Bob) Neeper
>>> (Retired Toledo Scale Engineer & Library Computer Guy)neeperro at gmail.com
>>>
>>> Doing Genealogy at:
>>> Community Library
>>> Sunbury, Ohio
>>>
>>> On 7/7/2016 9:55 AM, Chris Krumnow wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that we are on the subject. What are acceptable boot times for your
>>> Patron computers. I try to keep it below 5 minutes, but I'm also using
>>> wireless laptops. I've also noticed restart times with Deep Freeze add
>>> about 30 seconds at first but over time increases. Has anyone else noticed
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris Krumnow
>>> IT Specialist
>>> Defiance Public Library System
>>> Work:419-782-1456
>>> Cell: 419-956-2767
>>> defiancelibrary.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Jan Berger <
>>> janberger at lebanonlibrary.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Deep Freeze is Windows 10 compatible. We waited until Cassie and Deep
>>>> Freeze made the move before we began upgrades.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, if you have both Deep Freeze and Faronics AV (loaded through the
>>>> Deep Freeze console and not added through Faronics core) on your public
>>>> computers, the same executable you used to install the Deep Freeze program
>>>> will uninstall it for you. You can uninstall Faronics AV through the
>>>> console or uninstall it through Programs and Features or allow Faronics AV
>>>> to uninstall any previous versions of itself as you install it again from
>>>> the console, as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* OPLINTECH [mailto:oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Jack Wolf
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 6, 2016 12:45 PM
>>>> *To:* oplintech at lists.oplin.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OPLINTECH] Windows 10?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2016-07-06 at 11:20 -0400, Phil Shirley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else started using Windows 10? We're using it successfully
>>>> on
>>>>
>>>> a couple of staff computers, and once we install the latest version of
>>>>
>>>> Cassie we're going to see if it works with our public PC setup (notably
>>>>
>>>> Deepfreze).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have upgraded a couple of our public PCs to Windows 10 last year, as
>>>> well as a majority of the Staff PCs, and haven't had many major issues*. Faronics
>>>> support mentioned something about DeepFreeze (at the time) not properly
>>>> supporting the automatic updates of Windows 10, but the latest version has
>>>> been working fine for us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Windows Shares all got reset after the upgrade, and any subsequent
>>>> upgrade (like from 10240 to 10586), which broke the setup of our Time
>>>> Management Software, CybraryN.. It was a fairly easy fix, but it's still a
>>>> nuisance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Jack Wolf*
>>>> *IT Assistant, Preble County District Library*
>>>> 450 S Barron St, Eaton, OH 45320
>>>> P: (937) 456-5051 <%28937%29%20456-5051> | F: (937) 456-6092
>>>> <%28937%29%20456-6092>
>>>> jackw at preblelibrary.org
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