[OPLINTECH] OPLINTECH Digest, Vol 133, Issue 12

Tue Nov 29 16:20:04 EST 2016

I was playing with this ages ago when I first stumbled on how imprecise the
LJ measures really are. One way to solve the question of how to account for
short sessions if you want to measure hours is to just sum up total time
the PCs are in use and round to the nearest hour. I'm pretty sure
Envisionware at least allows you to generate a report that shows actual
time used. That way no one has to monkey around with session length or
extending sessions at all. Ultimately this would have to be decided by
IMLS, so we could start with asking the State Library to advocate for the
change.

Also FWIW, I gave up playing around with this when I realized that the LJ
rankings are unfairly biased towards urban systems due to higher population
density. So for example, even though our rural system is in the same
category as Grandview Heights, Twinsburg, Hudson, Lakewood, and Shaker
Heights, we'll never compete with them because their user visits, circ,
computer sessions, and program attendance will always be orders of
magnitude greater than ours just because there are more users who are close
enough to use the library.

Nick

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Athens County Public Libraries
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 4:02 PM, <oplintech-request at lists.oplin.org> wrote:

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>    1. Re: Public Internet computer session length? (Ruchie Rice)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ruchie Rice <rrice at fcdlibrary.org>
> To: Jan Berger <janberger at lebanonlibrary.org>, "'Liz Rowe-Rawlinson'" <
> l.rowe-rawlinson at rrpl.org>, "'Ed Worso'" <ed.worso at geaugalibrary.info>,
> "'Tom Casey'" <TCASEY at libraryvisit.org>
> Cc: "'Phil Shirley'" <pshirley at cuyahogafallslibrary.org>, "'OPLINTECH'" <
> OPLINTECH at lists.oplin.org>
> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 21:02:32 +0000
> Subject: Re: [OPLINTECH] Public Internet computer session length?
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> Yes, but allowing one hour at a time doesn’t mean they will use it for an
> hour. Then do we not count those sessions? Ours are set to an hour except
> two computers so we go by sessions, as in, per logon\logoffs. Also, they
> are automatically recorded which is convenient.
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>
> Ruchie Rice
>
> IT Coordinator
> Fairfield County District Library
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> 740-6532745 <(740)%20653-2745>
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> www.fcdlibrary.org
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> *From:* OPLINTECH [mailto:oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Jan Berger
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:57 PM
> *To:* 'Liz Rowe-Rawlinson' <l.rowe-rawlinson at rrpl.org>; 'Ed Worso' <
> ed.worso at geaugalibrary.info>; 'Tom Casey' <TCASEY at libraryvisit.org>
> *Cc:* 'Phil Shirley' <pshirley at cuyahogafallslibrary.org>; 'OPLINTECH' <
> OPLINTECH at lists.oplin.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPLINTECH] Public Internet computer session length?
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>
> Interested in this.
>
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>
> We have 21 computers set for a one-hour default with 15 minute extensions
> for up to 1200 minutes per day. As long as there is always an available
> computer, a patron could use a computer from 10:00am until we close at
> 8:00pm. We have had some do so with very few breaks for food.
>
>
>
> Only one computer is set for 15 minutes only. For some reason, folks love
> to use it, even if plenty of other computers are open.
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>
> Jan M. Berger
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> IT Coordinator
>
> Lebanon Public Library
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> 101 S. Broadway St.
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> Lebanon, OH  45036
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> 513-932-2665 <(513)%20932-2665>
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> Lebanonlibrary.org <http://www.lebanonlibrary.org/>
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> *From:* OPLINTECH [mailto:oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org
> <oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org>] *On Behalf Of *Liz Rowe-Rawlinson
> *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2016 12:13 PM
> *To:* 'Ed Worso'; 'Tom Casey'
> *Cc:* 'Phil Shirley'; 'OPLINTECH'
> *Subject:* Re: [OPLINTECH] Public Internet computer session length?
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> Ed,
>
> I second that. How can we get the ball rolling on this?
>
> Liz
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> *From:* OPLINTECH [mailto:oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org
> <oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ed Worso
> *Sent:* Monday, November 07, 2016 11:25 AM
> *To:* Tom Casey <TCASEY at libraryvisit.org>
> *Cc:* Phil Shirley <pshirley at cuyahogafallslibrary.org>; OPLINTECH <
> OPLINTECH at lists.oplin.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPLINTECH] Public Internet computer session length?
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> Here's something to be considered: standardizing what "a session" means.
> In other words, the state report and LJ should list hours of public
> computer use with one hour as the measure. That would allow consistency of
> measure for all locations so there isn't an opportunity of inflating
> numerical values by limiting sessions to 15 minutes but allowing unlimited
> sessions.
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> For your consideration.
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>
> Edward Worso
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> Director
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> Geauga County Public Library
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> Administrative Center
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> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Tom Casey <TCASEY at libraryvisit.org>
> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> We have the computers set to one hour sessions as the default. These
> sessions will continue indefinitely if no one is waiting.
> Once there is a queue, patrons that have been using the computers for over
> an hour are given ten minutes to finish their session and are then logged
> off.
> We also have some fifteen minute express computers.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruchie Rice [mailto:rrice at fcdlibrary.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 2:04 PM
> To: Phil Shirley <pshirley at cuyahogafallslibrary.org>; OPLINTECH <
> OPLINTECH at lists.oplin.org>
> Subject: Re: [OPLINTECH] Public Internet computer session length?
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> We let them have 1 hr sessions which they can extend for up to a total of
> three hours. We have two express machines for 20 min use.
>
> Ruchie Rice
> IT Coordinator
> Fairfield County District Library
> 740-6532745
> www.fcdlibrary.org
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> Everybody knows something you don’t, so treat them like it - Anonymous
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: OPLINTECH [mailto:oplintech-bounces at lists..oplin.org
> <oplintech-bounces at lists.oplin.org>] On Behalf Of Phil Shirley
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 12:28 PM
> To: OPLINTECH <OPLINTECH at lists.oplin.org>
> Subject: [OPLINTECH] Public Internet computer session length?
>
> When someone signs onto one of your public internet computers, how long is
> the session?
>
> Most of ours are two hours, and we have four "express" computers where you
> get 20 minutes.
>
> Our CASSIE software will log you off and reboot when your session is up;
> you can log on again unless someone is in the CASSIE queue.
>
> You can have up to 240 minutes per day (or more if the staff choose to
> extend your time).
>
> I was looking at the LJ library ratings and wondering about "public
> internet computer use." I think that's the number of sessions; it seems
> like that would depend a lot on how long the sessions are.
>
> Phil
> --
> Phil Shirley
> Technology Services Coordinator
> Cuyahoga Falls Library
> Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
> 330-928-2117, ext. 109
> pshirley at CuyahogaFallsLibrary.org
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