[OPLINTECH] Windows 10 for public computers

Tue Aug 15 15:14:10 EDT 2017

Hello...

We have done this on staff machines and it is a little  bit tricky.
Initially when windows 10 version 1607 came out , it was not compatible
with Deep Freeze. Faronics has since updated it's software so it will play
nice, so you want to make sure that you have the latest DeepFreeze in place
before beginning the upgrades. Cassie will require a reinstall after you
upgrade as there is some odd installer set inside Cassie that checks the OS
when installing and only adds the file needed to run in Windows 10 if in
fact the machine already has it. Not sure how this will effect Winselect as
we do not use this.

Hope this helps

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Chad Neeper via OPLINTECH <
oplintech at lists.oplin.org> wrote:

> Dan,
>
> For my part, I've reluctantly "upgraded" only a couple of libraries to
> Win10 so far. I actually like Win10 just fine on my own computer and on
> stand-alone computers. I can deal with it for staff computers, since
> they're only lightly managed and don't have any software that integrates
> deeply into the OS like Deep Freeze or Cassie. But I absolutely despise
> being forced into it for patron computers. Microsoft's Windows As A Service
> policy is too aggressive for computers that need to maintain a constant
> level of functionality and consistency. I don't WANT the computers to
> change. Security patches and bug fixes are good, but constant feature and
> OS changes is extremely difficult to deal with. I'm constantly on edge and
> aware that Deep Freeze could go bonkers with any OS change that Microsoft
> decides randomly to roll out. We had several tastes of incompatibilities
> with DF and Win8.x a few years ago, with devastating results and I've been
> on edge ever since. That's much worse with Win10.
>
> The best answer I've been able to come up with so far is to employ WSUS
> and tightly manage or even stop the updates going to the computers with
> deeply-seated software like Deep Freeze and/or Cassie. That way, at least,
> once you get a stable Win10 configuration, you can be reasonably sure that
> it'll stay working and you can apply updates after first vetting them on a
> test computer that duplicates the production environment.
>
> Rolling/frequent updates are generally good from a security perspective.
> But from a reliability and management perspective, having constant OS and
> feature changes is a real pain in the butt, especially when you're dealing
> with third-party applications that could be broken with any random update.
> For libraries, Windows 7 was and still is the perfect Windows platform,
> IMHO.
>
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-overview
>
> Above is a link to an article that describes some of the options for
> dealing with change. For instance, you have the option to use a Long Term
> Services Branch for mission critical (non-changing) computers. I've not dug
> into that myself, but maybe it's an option for some libraries.
>
>
> Chad
>
>
>
>
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> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Dan Moore via OPLINTECH <
> oplintech at lists.oplin.org> wrote:
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>> Computer support staff
>>
>>      I have been tinkering around with Windows 10 for our public
>> computers and not having much success.  We use Casie for time and print
>> management, Winselect and Deep Freeze to lock down the computers.   I have
>> the latest versions of all three which are supposed to be Windows 10
>> compatible.  Has any one had any success with a stable configuration of
>> these?
>>
>> Thanks for any ideas...
>>
>> --
>> Dan Moore
>> Automated Services Coordinator
>> Garnet A. Wilson Public Library of Pike Co.
>> 207 N. Market St.
>> Waverly, Ohio. 45690
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